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First Bummer with EV - kj - 08-25-2023
Not doing this to tank Tesla stock, or dissuade anyone from EV ownership, as I am overall very happy with being EV only. However, I did run into the first kind of bummer something my ICE would have done easily that I can't do at all with an EV.
I missed a trip to Mt. Borah with my brother and friends and decided before the weather gets bad to drive over and bag it and drive back all in a day. Got on and tried to plan the trip and it looks like if I went boise to Twin Falls, charged completely, I would get to Mt. Borah with theoretically 140miles left to get back to Twin Falls, which isn't enough. And you know real world range won't be better than theoretical. So I can't get Boise to Mt. Borah and back with my Tesla. Given more time, I might be able to do it using level 2, but I'm not even sure about that.
The Tesla trip planner won't even complete a trip to Moscow, ID, so I'm assuming that's not possible either without overnighting at a level 2.
We need more superchargers in Idaho!
Re: First Bummer with EV - timg - 08-25-2023
They haven't outlawed EV's in Idaho yet?
Re: First Bummer with EV - kj - 08-25-2023
timg wrote:
They haven't outlawed EV's in Idaho yet?
I know ;-). I'm sure they would be, but they kind of don't need to with so much naturally occurring support.
Re: First Bummer with EV - ztirffritz - 08-25-2023
Starting/Ending points?
Plugshare shows an EA station in Pocatello ID, Heyburn ID, and another in Mountain Home ID. Do you have a CCS adapter? Between Tesla SCs and EA stations, I think it's doable.
I don't see a way to share the route from Plugshare, but it shoes EA stations in Pocatello as well.
ABRP shows that even a standard range M3 should make it. There appears to be a 48kwh Tesla charger in Burley too.
https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=78137eb4-6d9d-4edb-9b36-0980e80d74d4
I'd explore a bit more before you can the idea.
Re: First Bummer with EV - sekker - 08-25-2023
Even if this is possible, doesn't change that we need more chargers!
Re: First Bummer with EV - Bill in NC - 08-25-2023
the problem with non-Superchargers is that you won't know they're broken until you arrive at them.
Re: First Bummer with EV - timg - 08-25-2023
sekker wrote:
Even if this is possible, doesn't change that we need more chargers!
Would be so much easier if they were all on the same standard as well.
Re: First Bummer with EV - ztirffritz - 08-25-2023
sekker wrote:
Even if this is possible, doesn't change that we need more chargers!
Agreed, but it's a chicken/egg problem. People haven't realized how to monetize chargers yet. How much do you think it costs to install a typical gas station, all in, with 8 pumps? I'd guess $2-4million.
Now imagine a similar installation with one or two Tesla MegaPacks and canopies covered in solar panels, connected to the grid. Your vehicle charging station can push/pull from/to the grid and charge vehicles at the same time. Solar on the canopies would reduce the grid pull costs. The attached cafe/convenience store would generate significant revenue I'd think. A Tesla Megapack is around $1.2million/ea and is capable of powering 3600 homes for an hour. You could charge quite a few cars with that. 10-20 charging stations per megapack should be possible for about $2-3million.
Re: First Bummer with EV - gadje - 08-25-2023
Yeah there are always edge cases where an ICE is better than an EV.
There are still corner cases where a horse is better than an ICE. Does that change the fact that most people use cars instead of buggies? No.
Re: First Bummer with EV - Carnos Jax - 08-25-2023
ztirffritz wrote:
People haven't realized how to monetize chargers yet.
I think Tesla makes a profit on their superchargers?