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This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - Acer - 04-02-2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1G_bda3o1o
TL;DW:
1. Zoning, which interfered with the natural mixed-use evolution of cities. Zoning was begun to discourage unsafe housing, but mission creep ensued.
2. Subsidizing suburban, car-culture sprawl with interstates and mortgages
And for you patriots in the audience, they also make a case for letting you do what you need to do with your property without government interference (outside of genuine health and safety concerns.)
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - mattkime - 04-02-2024
Locally, they're trying to change zoning to allow for more apartment buildings.
They had a meeting about it. Guess what?
A bunch of older people showed up to basically cover their ears and yell HELL NO.
Why? I suspect they see apt buildings as being trashy or something.
Point is, gotta get past those people.
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - vision63 - 04-02-2024
mattkime wrote:
Locally, they're trying to change zoning to allow for more apartment buildings.
They had a meeting about it. Guess what?
A bunch of older people showed up to basically cover their ears and yell HELL NO.
Why? I suspect they see apt buildings as being trashy or something.
Point is, gotta get past those people.
I'm more concerned about "who" lives in the new apartment buildings. Otherwise, I just view it as basic gentrification and minority removal. I believe that well-to-do people, who can afford to live anywhere they want don't need any additional public help.
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - Acer - 04-02-2024
They don't have to be 5-floor apartment buildings.
Just a two-story, with the owner on the first floor, and a rentable flat on the second floor. Income for the owner to address the mortgage, affordable housing for another small family. You can still find them in older cities. But who's building new ones?
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - Filliam H. Muffman - 04-02-2024
This is one of several problems with cities in the US. Another big one is mega corps pushing up home prices by buying thousands of homes to keep average people from becoming home owners.
Finland fixed about 75% of their homeless problem. It looks like a bargain compared to how much our cities/states
GM ruining public transportation is another occasionally getting fixed in small steps.
I mentioned it before, office buildings being required to have apartments for employees, and retail shops, would cut way down on traffic.
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - anonymouse1 - 04-02-2024
Got a link to that Finland piece--sounds interesting!
Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
This is one of several problems with cities in the US. Another big one is mega corps pushing up home prices by buying thousands of homes to keep average people from becoming home owners.
Finland fixed about 75% of their homeless problem. It looks like a bargain compared to how much our cities/statesspendwaste money on it.
GM ruining public transportation is another occasionally getting fixed in small steps.
I mentioned it before, office buildings being required to have apartments for employees, and retail shops, would cut way down on traffic.
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - Ted King - 04-02-2024
I don't have firm ideas on how to fix it, but I thought I'd share something that is happening in my neighborhood that seems to be almost organically addressing the problem. In Portland if you own a single family home with a large enough lot (which can be as small as 5000 ft2 I think), you can put down an accessory dwelling unit (ADU) with up to 800 ft2. They are popping up a fair bit in my neighborhood and being rented out. Empty lots are being built on with two story small single family dwellings that are packed together pretty tight but still have a little space for themselves.
These dwellings are still too expensive for someone making minimum wage but I think it is easing the competition for smaller, more compact dwellings so it may be helping a little bit.
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - Black - 04-02-2024
mattkime wrote:Were you there?
Locally, they're trying to change zoning to allow for more apartment buildings.
They had a meeting about it. Guess what?
A bunch of older people showed up to basically cover their ears and yell HELL NO.
Why? I suspect they see apt buildings as being trashy or something.
Point is, gotta get past those people.
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - DeusxMac - 04-02-2024
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Sorry, this guy’s ideological deck is so obviously stacked for his agenda.
Concepts and realities ignored. Euphemistically flattering, spun, phrasing.
Re: This Experiment Undid Our Cities. How Do We Fix It? - Black - 04-02-2024
Filliam H. Muffman wrote:Got any evidence of that? Seems to have been systematically erased from the web.
GM ruining public transportation is another occasionally getting fixed in small steps.