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Trump is going to win - kj - 06-14-2024
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/06/12/five-months-out-donald-trump-has-a-clear-lead
Good Lord, why is your party so dumb. Actually, it could be that Democrats are so creative in their thinking that they convince themselves what they are doing makes sense. Intelligent stupidity. If Trump wins, I've had it. A party this stupid doesn't deserve to win.
Re: Trump is going to win - Acer - 06-14-2024
Nate Silver, and just about every other pollster and analyst, couldn't accurately call three swing states 24 hours before the 2016 election. We're five months out.
Re: Trump is going to win - hal - 06-14-2024
Trump is not going to win, dammit!
Re: Trump is going to win - Speedy - 06-14-2024
hal wrote:
Trump is not going to win, dammit!
Yes, he is. Too many people don’t take voting seriously so they’ll take a flyer and reelect him.
Re: Trump is going to win - PeterB - 06-14-2024
It ain't over 'till the Fat Orange Man sings. And sing he will. In a federal pen.
Let's face it: he's a crook. He's already been convicted twice, and it's barely the tip of the iceberg. Even Nixon knew when to quit.
If this is the best the GOP can come up with, it's a problem.
Oh, and nobody, I mean NOBODY, really wants this guy in charge of anything truly important. Nuclear launch codes anyone? Think about it.
Re: Trump is going to win - gabester - 06-14-2024
PeterB wrote:
Oh, and nobody, I mean NOBODY, really wants this guy in charge of anything truly important. Nuclear launch codes anyone? Think about it.
That seems to be just the problem, though - a lot of people aren't thinking about it, are voting blindly on some single trigger issue, and will choose to elect someone who could quite possibly deliberately choose to END LIFE AS WE KNOW IT ON THIS PLANET FOR PERSONAL GAIN, because "a lot of people are saying President Biden is... {a crime family | socialist | too old | not doing enough | banned abortion}"
Re: Trump is going to win - mrbigstuff - 06-14-2024
Ok. Ratchet down the hyperbole a notch or three. Convince people why they should vote for a candidate, don't scream and rant at them, why they are so dumb if they don't. I know, there are lots of dumb people out there, but calling them dumb isn't helping.
Re: Trump is going to win - Ted King - 06-14-2024
kj wrote:
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/06/12/five-months-out-donald-trump-has-a-clear-lead
Good Lord, why is your party so dumb. Actually, it could be that Democrats are so creative in their thinking that they convince themselves what they are doing makes sense. Intelligent stupidity. If Trump wins, I've had it. A party this stupid doesn't deserve to win.
It's not easy building coalitions to win a nomination, especially against a sitting president, so it's not surprising nobody tried. I hope you also have even more disgust with Republicans who have transformed themselves into a mob party and uninformed voters who think we are in a recession and Biden was responsible for the overturning of Roe because he was president.
Re: Trump is going to win - DeusxMac - 06-14-2024
PeterB wrote:
It ain't over 'till the Fat Orange Man sings. And sing he will. In a federal pen.
As in Sing Sing?X:thumbsup:
Re: Trump is going to win - pdq - 06-14-2024
Oh please.
Our economy is currently the best in the developed world - empirically, not just my opinion. Stock markets reflect this (plus some irrationality, honestly) but in any case, setting new records nearly every week and doing waaaay better than the last guy did.
We just had unemployment’s longest run of sub-4% since the 50’s.
Inflation (which was, for the hundredth time, a world-wide post-pandemic phenomenon) has come down as fast or faster than other countries. Mortgages are still high, but that’s largely due to a recalcitrant Fed. And workers pay has exceeded inflation, especially on the low end, so that for the first time in a generation the income gap may be narrowing.
Deficits, while of concern, have been halved since Trump’s last year.
We are actually on a course - not just promising to release a secret plan in two weeks - to tackle aging infrastructure, and are pursuing it.
Crime is down nationally and dropping “precipitously”.
Immigration has soared (not surprisingly, since people from all over want to live here for the reasons above), but Biden presented a plan for immigration reform his first day in office, and the Senate finally hammered out a bipartisan (plus Independents) compromise along those lines. But Trump decreed that that problem must not be solved, so he can yammer about it, and the GOP capitulated and threw the conservative Senator James Lankford (who negotiated it) under the bus.
We are in no foreign wars, but have supported and enabled a much smaller country to resist Putin’s aggression for years now.
Now, a third of the country has drunk the Trump Kool-aid and (and least pretends) they believe the country is in horrible shape. (Hey, are you gonna believe me, your great leader and stable genius, or your own lyin eyes?)
And Biden is old.
If I recall correctly, four years ago you said you hated Hillary Clinton and everything she stood for. Trump won and appointed three more young compliant conservative culture warriors to the SCOTUS that have since upended women’s lives, among other things. Don’t like Biden? Vote for whoever you want.
But don’t give us this crap about how stupid the Democratic party is. When given the presidency, they’ve accomplished all of the above, despite the best efforts of the other side and their allies in the Faux News universe. And that should be worth the vote of anyone who hasn’t closed their mind.
Okay?
Rant over.