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Shocker-Elon is lying! - anonymouse1 - 12-19-2024
About the stop-gap spending bill, of course (you can tell he's lying-he's posting on Twitter...)
Anyway, here are some specific lies (a few among many), from Brad DeLong:
Yes, Elon Musk told a huge number of lies:
Elon Musk falsely claimed that the bill would fund laboratory weapons to develop biological weapons—it would not: it would fund labs where any future plague could be contained and studied, for we were very lucky in that COVID-19 was not nearly as infectious as, say, Ebola and cannot count on being so lucky next time.
Elon Musk falsely claimed that each member of Congress would get a 40% pay increase—they would not: members of Congress are scheduled to get a 3.8% at most cost-of-living-increase whether or not the bill under consideration were to pass.
Elon Musk falsely claimed that the bill contained a $3 billion subsidy for a new NFL Washington Commanders stadium—it would not: the bill would transfer the site of RFK stadium, where no NFL team plays or has any plans to play (the Commanders play in Landover, Maryland) to the DC local government so that the site can be redeveloped (it is, after all only 4 miles from the White House).
Musk falsely claimed that the bill would block House Republicans from “investigating: Liz Cheney and other members of the House January 6 Committee—it would not, and there is no non-deluded reason anyone should think it might: the House sets its own rules for what it can and cannot do in its internal procedures, and while those rules are sometimes incorporated into public laws, the House can of its own accord change those on its own whenever it wishes, and I have already been dragged down a misinformation rabbit hole because the bill under consideration does not change the House’s rules of procedure at all.
And more lies. And more lies. And more.
And yet Elon Musk’s lies and his declarations that “any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in 2 years!” had real consequences.
Instead of saying “Elon Musk is misinformed and does not know what he is talking about”, the Republican legislators all ran for cover. Donald Trump had, according to what GOP representatives were saying as of the morning of Wednesday December 18, expressed no reservations about the bill. By Wednesday afternoon, President-Elect Trump and J.D. Vance had decided to respond by attacking Republican lawmakers.
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - SteveG - 12-19-2024
the Gruesome Twosome
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - Acer - 12-19-2024
Tesla, SpaceX and X would like to thank America for keeping Musk out of their hair so they can some work done.
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - steve... - 12-19-2024
Steve G. wrote:
the Gruesome Twosome
This photo is surreal.
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Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - rgG - 12-19-2024
steve... wrote:
[quote=Steve G.]
the Gruesome Twosome
This photo is surreal.
???
I was thinking the same.
T’s face is just awful and E’s isn’t much better but at least it doesn’t look like it’s covered in red clay mud. Lol
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - gabester - 12-19-2024
I was talking to a friend the other day about how thankful we were the Allies won World War II, and how otherwise we'd have Nazis in space. There was a beat, and then he quipped, "Well now we know what the X stands for in SpaceX and the rebranded Twitter...."
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - Rick-o - 12-19-2024
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - Tiangou - 12-19-2024
In other news, SpaceX has been covering up potentially fatal errors, just like Tesla does, by delaying or obfuscating when they have self-reporting obligations.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/power-failed-spacex-mission-control-before-september-spacewalk-by-nasa-nominee-2024-12-17/
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - DeusxMac - 12-19-2024
Duplicating from an earlier thread…
Actually, like it or not, Musk did create SpaceX in 2001.
“Musk initially attempted to acquire a Dnepr launch vehicle for the [Mars Oasis] project through Russian contacts…but found the Russians increasingly unreceptive.” He then “…announced he could start a company to build the affordable rockets they needed instead.”
Re: Shocker-Elon is lying! - graylocks - 12-19-2024
i need to stop paying attention to the news for awhile. it's really demoralizing watching the country go to hell.