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cease & resist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - NewtonMP2100 - 03-11-2025

…..U.S. led talks……..30 day cease fire…….breaking news……’


……….30 day cease fire………?!


Re: cease & desist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - pdq - 03-11-2025

What are we not being told?


Re: cease & desist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - $tevie - 03-11-2025

Russia will say yes and attack Ukraine a week later. This is all BS.


Re: cease & desist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - gabester - 03-11-2025

pdq wrote:
What are we not being told?

I'd look to see whether the usurper king has acquired partial ownership of any defense contractors or weapons manufacturers, and whether said organizations have the ability to, a la Stark Technologies, supply both sides.

The Ukraine needs to stall for time while Europe ramps up native defense capabilities - especially electronics and motors manufacturing for drones, I'd guess. Russia is hoping to get ahold of some "off-lease" US hardware to deplete their diminished stockpiles now that the usurper king's true allegiance is out in the open.


Re: cease & desist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - Fritz - 03-11-2025

$tevie wrote:
Russia will say yes and attack Ukraine a week later. This is all BS.

yup


Re: cease & resist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - davemchine - 03-11-2025

Does Europe really have the stones to come up with money/munitions for the Ukraine? I suspect not.


Re: cease & resist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - special - 03-11-2025

davemchine wrote:
Does Europe really have the stones to come up with money/munitions for the Ukraine? I suspect not.

Ukraine Population: 37.73
Russia Population: 143.8
US Population: 340.1
EU Population: 449.2

EU + Ukraine should eclipse Russia man power.

let's also look at GDP

Ukraine: 178.8 billion
Russia: 2.021 trillion
US GDP: 27.72 trillion
EU GDP: 18.6 trillion

Again, EU should eclipse Russia.


Re: cease & resist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - gabester - 03-11-2025

You could break out just 4 european nations adjoining Russia - Poland, Norway, Sweden, and Finland and be comparably matched:

         60.2 $2322
Nation Pop GDP
Poland 38.5 $908
Sweden 10.6 $605
Norway 5.5 $501
Finland 5.6 $308

Toss in another 8 million people from the baltics and another $200 for their money... You don't even need all of Europe to fight this war. It would help if the Germans, French, Italians, Spanish, and British could lend some manpower on the ground.


Re: cease & resist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - special - 03-11-2025

The U.S. will resume Ukraine military aid and intelligence, as Kyiv approves ceasefire


How does this work? We help them if they don't fight? How is that military help?


Re: cease & resist?!…..Ukraine agrees to cease fire, if Russia accepts….. - Tiangou - 03-12-2025

special wrote:
The U.S. will resume Ukraine military aid and intelligence, as Kyiv approves ceasefire


How does this work? We help them if they don't fight? How is that military help?

No arms.

Just SpaceX won't cut off the Internet and we'll let them have satellite feeds to see troop-movements.