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Article: Warming expected to reshape California - ho'ard - 12-31-2007

Thoughtful and informative piece.

By Noaki Schwartz, Associated Press
LOS ANGELES — California is defined by its scenery, from the mountains that enchanted John Muir to the wine country and beaches that define its culture around the world.

But as scientists try to forecast how global warming might affect the nation's most geographically diverse state, they envision a landscape that could look quite different by the end of this century, if not sooner.

Where celebrities, surfers and wannabes mingle on Malibu's world-famous beaches, there may be only sea walls defending fading mansions from the encroaching Pacific. In Northern California, tourists could have to drive farther north or to the cool edge of the Pacific to find what is left of the region's signature wine country.

Abandoned ski lifts might dangle above snowless trails more suitable for mountain biking even during much of the winter. In the deserts, Joshua trees that once extended their tangled, shaggy arms into the sky by the thousands may have all but disappeared.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/environment/2007-12-30-california_N.htm?csp=15


Well, my primary complaint is that the sea otters get to scarf all the abalone. Drat! - liberals' liberal - 12-31-2007

The real ''climate change'' that is having the greatest affect on lifestyle in
California is the gradual change from an English-speaking region populated
by productive taxpayers into one where the few work to support the many,
and many of the many there illegally.


Wild speculations, as in the article, are most likely done to frighten the ignorant. - lunasea - 12-31-2007

"Many of the possible scenarios are gloomy." says the article,
and why wouldn't they be? After all the left is determined to
destroy America using one of the infamous Soviet era methods
in creating discord. When the global cooling lie couldn't be
supported, they waited til summer to tell us the planet was
warming! And it all goes back to our industrialization, our
progress. Yup, our wealth as a nation and ability to sustain
ourselves was responsible for the pending demise of the planet!
And of course the do gooders and loons all on the left of
course, cried rivers of tears! There's no science in this and
never was. It's the old commie lies under a new religion!!


Re: Article: Warming expected to reshape California - Lux Interior - 12-31-2007

Better red than dead.


Re: Article: Warming expected to reshape California - Comandanta_Blankenship - 12-31-2007

Santa Barbara would have Santa Monica's current climate. Where is the disaster in that?


Re: Article: Warming expected to reshape California - x-uri - 12-31-2007




Re: Article: Warming expected to reshape California - SDGuy - 12-31-2007

To quote that great sage, Ronald Reagan, "there you go again..." with the Global Warming.

Right now, today, San Diego is a whopping 4.6% BELOW normal temperatures:

http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USCA0982
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/daily/USCA0982?climoMonth=12

Looks like they were right after all...



Re: Article: Warming expected to reshape California - x-uri - 01-01-2008



1) Newsweek is not a peer-reviewed journal.

2) In the 33 years since the publication of this article more data has become available and better models for climate change have been developed.

3) Note that that the overall trend of the chart is warming (the smooth negative slope at the RHS occurs in an interval which is shorter than the time between the publication of that article and this post), and that the areas alleged to be affected by this cooling trend are NOT THE WHOLE FSKING PLANET!

Link to PDF of the Infamous Newsweek Article

A contemporary National Geographic Article

A survey of peer-reviewed literature from the period

edit -- fixed a typo


Re: Article: Warming expected to reshape California - ho'ard - 01-01-2008

[quote SDGuy]Right now, today, San Diego is a whopping 4.6% BELOW normal temperatures
Interesting. What about earlier this morning?


Re: Article: Warming expected to reshape California - Carthaigh - 01-01-2008

[quote SDGuy]Right now, today, San Diego is a whopping 4.6% BELOW normal temperatures:
Right now, today, in my house, in Los Angeles, the temperature is 5% ABOVE the temperature outside. So what?