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Hillary 3rd? - blooz - 01-04-2008
Or second—she and edwards are close. 10:30 PM
Obama is 8 percent ahead of them.
Re: Hillary 3rd? - Gutenberg - 01-04-2008
Neither Iowa nor New Hampshire is a particularly good predictor of who will win the nomination. Candidates aim for the top three in those states. The winner may get some cash coming in because of the win, but it's no assurance of anything else.
Re: Hillary 3rd? - (vikm) - 01-04-2008
Just watched about 4 different networks and they said this is the worst thing that could have happened to Hillary (finishing 3rd). Each of them laid out a path how this really helps Obama further on down the line. At the very least it showed a state that is 95% white favors a black man for President on the Democratic side. They also pointed out that with this first win, it should actually increase voters for him in other states. Theory being that many wouldn't have been likely to come out and vote for him if he lost because it would present the picture that he couldn't win. Now all bets are off.
They also did point out that this in no way (as noted above) is an indication that he will be the candidate for certain. Each of the news shows all raved about Obama's speech afterward and noted that Bill looked "devastated" as he stood by Hillary during her same old "stump speech".
It's gonna be really interesting.
Re: Hillary 3rd? - x-uri - 01-04-2008
Now, if we can just get footage of Senator Clinton making hooting noises at a crowd of supporters we can declare her campaign over.
Edwards/Gravel '08 (fingers crossed).
Re: Hillary 3rd? - incognegro - 01-04-2008
new Hillary campaign poster:
Re: Hillary 3rd? - vision63 - 01-04-2008
Well based on Iowa's turnout, the future doesn't bode well for Republicans in general according to http://www.groupnewsblog.net/2008/01/iowa-wrap-up.html
Iowa Wrap Up
Total Voter Turnout (approximate)
356,000
Percentage of total vote
24.5% Obama
20.5% Edwards
19.8% Clinton
11.4% Huckabee ®
Any Republicans left in Iowa?
Re: Hillary 3rd? - RgrF - 01-04-2008
[quote x-uri]Now, if we can just get footage of Senator Clinton making hooting noises at a crowd of supporters we can declare her campaign over.
Edwards/Gravel '08 (fingers crossed).
Agreed Edwards presents insurmountable problems for the right and while I like Gravel, there is no way he ends up on anyones ticket. I could support an Ewards/Anyone ticket.
Re: Hillary 3rd? - cbelt3 - 01-04-2008
Yet again, our defective election system makes a bunch of yahoos in Iowa the most important people in the US.
I'd rather see a primary run just like the main election- all at the same time across the US, none of this inky dinky state pushing one candidate above the other.
Or just let the states primaries run in order of available electorate votes. You know, California first.
Re: Hillary 3rd? - edgarbc1 - 01-04-2008
[quote cbelt3]Yet again, our defective election system makes a bunch of yahoos in Iowa the most important people in the US.
just let the states primaries run in order of available electorate votes. You know, California first.
LIke the yahoos in Calif. know any better than Iowa's yahoos...
your logic with that argument
seems elitist and not very democratic (with little d and big D)
why not let the big electoral states form their own nation and let the peon
states cecede and be independent nation states..
I bet you would have the same bickering about who goes first between the
big electoral states...
Hillary lost... get over it..
Re: Hillary 3rd? - mattkime - 01-04-2008
I'm a dem, liked clinton but i'm happy to see hillary in 3rd.
we've had the bush dynasty, we don't need the clinton dynasty.