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Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - loveshine - 09-02-2008
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/02/the-bells-of-st-marys-refutes-gov-palins-pledge-of-allegiancefounding-fathers-claim/
these Palin photos may be offensive
http://www.secretsofsarahpalin.com/2008/09/01/10-pictures-sarah-palin-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
Could they be photoshopped?
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - MacMagus - 09-02-2008
The first link is a non-story.
The photos are a non-story.
Dude, she was a runner up for "Miss Alaska." There's more bikini shots than that out there. She'll probably send you one if you write a nice letter.
And she's got top scores in the NRA. She hunts with armor-piercing bullets. Do you think she cares that there's a pic out there of her lounging on a bear-skin?
...
Can't we just stick to the political stuff?
I mean, this woman is tied to a huge corruption scandal. We don't really need to pick at her personal life any more and if we're gonna talk about candidates BSing there way into the hearts of the religious nuts out there, McCain, himself, offers plenty-nuf fodder for a bunch of new threads.
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - karsen - 09-02-2008
I hate to break it to you but the phrase "under God" is in the Pledge.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
But this isn't about "under God." People, like you, are spreading every stupid rumor and half truth you can to discredit this woman without even thinking about the crap you're spreading.
Q: Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
PALIN: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the Founding Fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
It, meaning the phrase "under God", was used by our founding fathers. In fact, the word "God" appears all through our Country's history. Really.
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - Lux Interior - 09-02-2008
Karsen, I can only believe you are being facetious.
I haven't logic take a path that torturous since Arlen Spector's "Magic Bullet" theory.
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - Carnos Jax - 09-02-2008
But "under God" was not in our Pledge of Allegiance originially, I think that's where loveshine was implying Palin made the mistake. The words were added to the Pledge by Congress in the '40s I think.
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - Don Kiyoti - 09-02-2008
The point is she apparently thinks that the Pledge was written by the founding fathers with the phrase "one nation under God" already in place, neither of which is the case.
Edit: Pledge history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
Basically, adopted as official pledge in 1942. "Under God" phrase adopted and made official in 1954.
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - Wags - 09-02-2008
[quote karsen]I hate to break it to you but the phrase "under God" is in the Pledge.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
But this isn't about "under God." People, like you, are spreading every stupid rumor and half truth you can to discredit this woman without even thinking about the crap you're spreading.
Q: Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
PALIN: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the Founding Fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
It, meaning the phrase "under God", was used by our founding fathers. In fact, the word "God" appears all through our Country's history. Really.
I hate to break it to you but the words "Under God" were not added to the Pledge until 1951. I presume that would be some time after the Founding Fathers could have decided it was "good enough for them". Anyone with even the slightest grasp of the process by which we became a democracy would understand how important the concept of seperation of church and State was to the founders. The Pledge was not even written until 1892. Here's a thought: let's give people a decent education. That is widely believed to be an essential criteria of a functional democracy. Reading ancient Middle East fairy tales does not count.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - Mike Sellers - 09-02-2008
[quote MacMagus] There's more bikini shots than that out there.
The bikini one's definitely fake since the head shot they swiped is the next to the last one on the bottom.
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - MacMagus - 09-02-2008
> The bikini one's definitely fake...
Honestly, I didn't look all that closely.
I'm sooo tired of this crap. I'm not sure I can make it to November.
Re: Does Pallin really think "Under God" was in the pledge of allegiance? - Dennis S - 09-02-2008
See, that's the whole problem, karsen. Palin is a bonehead. You, apparently are, too. This country is too precious for people like you and her to be trying to run it. Y'all have fscked it up in the last eight years and you still don't get it.