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Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - samintx - 11-03-2008
Do you remember reading a story told by Ezra T. Benson, who served as the Secretary of Agriculture during the Eisenhower administration. The leader of the Soviet Union, Nikita Kruschev (who followed Stalin) was going to visit the U.S. and Benson was ordered by Eisenhower to give Kruschev a tour of some of our agricultural facilities. With great reluctance, Benson agreed to do as requested by the President.
During the tour Kruschev remarked to Secretary Benson that communism would eventually consume democracy. Benson replied that Americans would never accept such a drastic change in their form of government as communism. Kruschev then told Benson that it was already beginning to happen.
He said that Americans were being fed one small bite of communism at a time, and that over the course of several years, Americans will have accepted so many communistic ideals, including a massive and uncontrollable federal government, that one day we would wake up to discover that we are a democracy only in name - that our policies and methods of government will be communist in nature. Kruschev concluded that it will be the slow injection of socialist/communist principles into America - not nuclear missiles - that would destroy our nation.
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - Dennis S - 11-03-2008
Republicanism is a greater danger to the US than communism or socialism. Communism and socialism are not on the horizon. Republicanism is here now and has been bleeding the country for almost 30 years.
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - Acer - 11-03-2008
What is "republicanism?"
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - cbelt3 - 11-03-2008
He means, in snarky style, the Republican party. Oddly, the Democratic Party used to be called the Democratic-Republican party. (thanks, wikipedia !)
From wikipedia
"Republicanism is the ideology of governing a nation as a republic, with an emphasis on liberty, rule of law, popular sovereignty and the civic virtue practiced by citizens.Republicanism always stands in opposition to any form of dictatorship or tyranny in the political realm. More broadly, it refers to a political system that protects liberty, especially by incorporating a rule of law that cannot be arbitrarily ignored by the government. As John Adams put it, “They define a republic to be a government of laws, and not of men.” Much of the literature deals with the issue of what sort of values and behavior by the citizens is necessary if the republic is to survive and flourish; the emphasis has been on widespread citizen participation, civic virtue, and opposition to corruption."
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - Pam - 11-03-2008
Yes Sam. When Obama wins we will turn Socialist. Run and hide now.
Yeesh.
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - MacGurl - 11-03-2008
Kathy (
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Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - Don Kiyoti - 11-03-2008
Hey Sam, Barack Obama has already given me all your stuff. I need you out of there in 24 hours
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - Seacrest - 11-03-2008
Since we're revisiting nineteen-fifties era paranoia, how about a soundtrack.
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - incognegro - 11-03-2008
well, 'terrorist' or 'socialist' is the new 'communist'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare
Due in part to the privation of the Great Depression, communism was an attractive ideology to many in the U.S., especially among intellectual and labor circles. At the height of American communism's popularity in 1939, the party had 50,000 U.S. members.[8] After the beginning of the war in Europe, Congress passed the Smith Act in 1940, which made membership in any organization advocating the violent overthrow of the government of the United States illegal and required all foreign nationals to register with the federal government. The Act was aimed not only at Communists, but also at members of the German-American Bund and the general Japanese-American population. After Germany invaded the USSR, the CPUSA shifted from an anti- to a pro-war position. During the war, while the USSR and America were allies, the Communist Party opposed labor strikes as detrimental to the war effort and supported an aggressive U.S. military policy. Under the slogan "Communism is Twentieth Century Americanism", CPUSA Chairman Earl Browder advertised that the party had been integrated into the mainstream of US politics.[citation needed] In contrast, the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party opposed World War II and supported strikes even in war industries.[citation needed] SWP leaders including James P. Cannon were convicted under the Smith Act, with the approval of the CPUSA, whose members were not prosecuted.
In 1947, Harry S Truman signed Executive Order 9835, creating the Federal Employees Loyalty Program. The program created review boards to investigate federal employees and terminate them if there were doubts as to their loyalty. The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) and the committees of Senator Joseph McCarthy began investigations of actual or alleged American Communists and their role in espionage, propaganda, and subversive activities, real and imagined.
There were also effects on America's way of life as a result of the Red Scare and the nuclear arms race, which contributed to the popularization of fallout shelters in home construction and regular duck and cover drills at schools. The Red Scare is also cited as one factor that contributed to the rise and popularity of science fiction films during the 1950s and beyond. Many thrillers and science fiction movies of the period used a theme of a sinister, inhuman enemy that was planning to infiltrate society and destroy the American way of life. Even a sports team was affected by the red scare; the Cincinnati Reds temporarily changed their team name to "Redlegs" to avoid the association of "Reds" and Communism.
Re: Kruschev Prophesy? is it coming or already here? - Gutenberg - 11-03-2008
He never said that. Benson never heard it. It is a favorite story of the John Birch Society, and like most stories of the John Birch Society, it is utterly and completely false. Suggest you check here, page 59:
http://books.google.com/books?id=NCOEYJ0q-DUC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=Benson+Khrushchev&source=web&ots=hAMyVBwYCG&sig=_BOdCsmcoe0U4DLEBz3aB9PZKMM&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA59,M1
Edit: by the way, it is spelled "Khrushchev."