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Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - swampy - 11-23-2008
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/beth-reinhard/story/782854.html
"At the top: the Employee Free Choice Act, which would make it easier for workers to join unions -- therefore ensuring the very survival of the House of Labor during the nationwide economic crisis."
If a secret ballot is good enough for Congress, it should be good enough for a working man.
It'll be very interesting indeed to see if their president-elect doesn't come through in the ways the unions envisioned. I mean, what can they do, and are unions really that special? Did they make "donations" or "political investments"?
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - Doc - 11-23-2008
Given the anti-union government we've had for the last several years and the anti-union sentiment engendered by the auto industry, perhaps it's time for unions to have a resurgence in this country.
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - Carnos Jax - 11-23-2008
True Doc. Plus, we could make 'similar' statements about 'big corporate' and the religious far right when Bush was elected.
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - Mac1337 - 11-23-2008
Doc wrote:
Given the anti-union government we've had for the last several years and the anti-union sentiment engendered by the auto industry, perhaps it's time for unions to have a resurgence in this country.
To accomplish what? What is the hourly wage+benefit to tighten wheel lugs?
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - MacGurl - 11-23-2008
Dakota wrote:
What is the hourly wage+benefit to tighten wheel lugs?
You might think tight wheel lugs was an important job if it was a car you or a loved one was driving.
Kathy
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - swampy - 11-23-2008
Perhaps it's time to lose the unions and go to a profit sharing deal with the employees.
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - lafinfil - 11-23-2008
Dakota wrote:
[quote=Doc]
Given the anti-union government we've had for the last several years and the anti-union sentiment engendered by the auto industry, perhaps it's time for unions to have a resurgence in this country.
To accomplish what? What is the hourly wage+benefit to tighten wheel lugs?
You work in a big building ? Ever wonder who hung the iron so it doesn't fall down, wire the electrical
so you aren't electrocuted, laid the plumbing so you don't have gas explosions ?
You worried about the boilers in your building blowing up ? What about that bridge on the interstate you drive home on.
Ever wonder who framed the forms for the concrete in that parking garage where you parked and who
was in charge when they poured the concrete in sub zero weather - making sure it cured properly ?
You ever spent any time on a factory floor ? If so what is you real experience with unions?
What about that guy running a train, or driving a bus, driving a tractor trailer - do you care how
many hours in a row they have worked and how much rest they have received ?
My impression is that people that spend their life sitting on their butt in an office have no concept of
what it is to work in a dirty dangerous situation and have never seen someone killed on the job
due to gross negligence and indifference.
Pick on the autoworker, the teachers and any other unions you like but it just shows ignorance.
I have friends in the auto industry working in a modern non-union plant (Subaru/Toyota)
It is a clean, safe, modern plant and the workers there make a good decent wage with benefits.
How are they able to do this ? Because the UAW is constantly on the prowl to unionize them and the
plants management knows this and will pay prevailing wage to keep the unions out.
The lugnut joke was funny - big laughs. I'll pass it along to my buddy that sews up the guys that
work in a trailer factory here that are constantly losing body parts to machines that have safety issues.
They should probably call OSHA but there is no union to protect them for being squealers.
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - Gutenberg - 11-23-2008
So it's ok for GM CEO Rick Wagoner to make $15.7 million, and it's ok for Ford CEO Alan Mullaly to make $17 million, and it's not ok for a guy on the line to make $25 an hour including benefits?
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - Gutenberg - 11-23-2008
For that matter, why is it ok for Joe the Plumber to make $250,000 a year and it's not ok for Joe Lugnut to make ~$50,000 a year including the benefits package?
Re: Labor Unions Preparing their Wish List - - $tevie - 11-23-2008
lafinfil wrote: You work in a big building ? Ever wonder who hung the iron so it doesn't fall down, wire the electrical
so you aren't electrocuted, laid the plumbing so you don't have gas explosions ?
You worried about the boilers in your building blowing up ? What about that bridge on the interstate you drive home on.
Ever wonder who framed the forms for the concrete in that parking garage where you parked and who
was in charge when they poured the concrete in sub zero weather - making sure it cured properly ?
You ever spent any time on a factory floor ? If so what is you real experience with unions?
What about that guy running a train, or driving a bus, driving a tractor trailer - do you care how
many hours in a row they have worked and how much rest they have received ?
My impression is that people that spend their life sitting on their butt in an office have no concept of
what it is to work in a dirty dangerous situation and have never seen someone killed on the job
due to gross negligence and indifference.
Pick on the autoworker, the teachers and any other unions you like but it just shows ignorance.
I have friends in the auto industry working in a modern non-union plant (Subaru/Toyota)
It is a clean, safe, modern plant and the workers there make a good decent wage with benefits.
How are they able to do this ? Because the UAW is constantly on the prowl to unionize them and the
plants management knows this and will pay prevailing wage to keep the unions out.
The lugnut joke was funny - big laughs. I'll pass it along to my buddy that sews up the guys that
work in a trailer factory here that are constantly losing body parts to machines that have safety issues.
They should probably call OSHA but there is no union to protect them for being squealers.
