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2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - mikebw - 11-26-2008





This is what all the channels from 500 and up look like over the component video output from the Verizon HD-DVR set top box in my living room. If I switch to HDMI there is just black.

I had this same problem over the summer and they had to send me a new box to fix the problem. I called last night about this most recent problem and explained that it had happened before and that I was 100% positive it was the box that was the problem. I asked if there was any way we could skip through the troubleshooting steps and just get to sending me a new one please.

The 1st time I called the guy said no, and he said I would have to unplug the box and try it on another TV. I said this would be a waste of time because I already knew that it was not my TV that was the problem. He insisted and said I should call back after I tried that, so I hung up and called back a few minutes later (having done no such thing).

The 2nd call was far less hostile, and the support tech was helpful but also said that they would have to go through the troubleshooting steps. He didn't ask me to do anything inane however and started with doing remote diagnostics. I knew these would not help because the previous time I had this problem they tried all the same things and it didn't fix it. I told the guy that but he kept on trying different remote resets and line tests. Final test was some kind of hard initialization that would take 45 minutes. He said if that didn't fix I should call back and they would send me a new box. He also said that all the troubleshooting steps were noted in my file and that anyone would be able to access that when I called back.

50 minutes later to box is completely dead. It will turn on but there is no video output, the channel is set a 0 and none of the buttons work.

3rd call - I told the guy I had been on the phone earlier with tech support and had done all kinds of tests and that I basically just needed him to send me a new box. He said he could not find any information about my previous calls in the system and that we would have to go through the diagnostics AGAIN. At this point it's almost like a joke to me and I say fine, but I have done all this before and I know that the box is at fault, this is my third time calling and could we please move it along. He skipped through the basic tests and managed to come up with a couple different tests that the 2nd didn't do, to no avail.
Finally he says there is one last test and that if it fails that one they will send me a new box. OK- a few minutes later after test has failed he apologizes and said that he "misspoke" earlier and that there was one final test they needed to be done, and that it was something that he could not do. He said that he would need to pass the issue off to their "video department" and that they would attempt to fix it remotely within 24 hours. He said "if it is not fixed within 24 hours call back and we will send you a new box".

SO. I am waiting until tonight so I can go home, turn on the box and see that it is STILL broken, then I can get on the phone for ANOTHER 30+ minute call just to have them send me a new box. They could have saved hours of time for themselves and me if they had just done what I requested before. I know that they cannot simply mail out a new box to anyone who has a problem, but I think I have proven that I know a little bit about the problem.

I have to say that the last 2 phone conversations I had were very nice, and they were apologetic and thanked me for being patient, but I basically spent my whole evening on the phone sitting in front of a broken TV box.

I don't even watch that much TV personally, and this problem actually started about a week ago. Last night was the first time I had to actually call about it. I know things break sometimes and that they are trying to help me, but it just gets me mad to know that I have to waist so much time on something that I already have the answer to.

All this and they are supposed to be increasing the subscription rates next year. I will definitely be making a call about that. Netflix and the Apple music store are looking a bit more attractive right now...


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - mattkime - 11-26-2008

Is this where i'm supposed to feel sorry for what you're going through with FiOS? Still don't! My cable company sucks just as much!


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - RonT - 11-26-2008

Well I for one feel your pain. I went through something similar with my verizon supplied dsl modem a year or so ago. If jumping through the phone line and strangling the person I was dealing with had been an option you can be sure I'd be typing this from a jail cell right now.

The up side of it all is this: computers and their like have made our lives sooo much simpler.

If you buy into that one - I have a slightly used laptop you'll probably be interested in. Let me kno


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - mikebw - 11-26-2008

mattkime wrote:
Is this where i'm supposed to feel sorry for what you're going through with FiOS? Still don't! My cable company sucks just as much!

Well, I was secretly hoping that somebody here worked at Verizon and would be able to get me some free upgrades... :wink: but that's probably not gonna happen.

It is sad though, I used to have Comcast and part of the reason I switched was because their service was absolutely horrible. Still worse than Verizon in my opinion, I am not even considering switching back, ever, but I had hoped I wouldn't have these kinds of issues with FiOS.


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - OWC Jamie - 11-26-2008

Isn't all this wonderful dependable modern technology the greatest ?


Just one of the many reasons I've gone backwards to OTA and reading.
Just not worth the hassle and expense.


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - ztirffritz - 11-26-2008

That is why I stick with DSL. When was the last time that the landline phones went down for more than a few minutes? It isn't quite as fast, but it works more reliably. I get my TV shows off of the internet so no need for cable.


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - 3d - 11-26-2008

When i initially hooked up with Verizon Fios i was paying $69.99 a month for HD-DVR + Internet (20mbps?) the fastest one...

After the year was up they jacked up the rates to the "regular" $120 a month. On a 50" plasma you really have no choice but to get the HD package. Regular TV looks blurry. I prefer to shut off the TV than watch blurry regular TV.

In the past year and a half of Verizon Fios i've had problems twice. Once was fixed over the phone. Unplug everything leave for a minute. Plug it all back in. Then some behind the scenes stuff. Done.

The next time i called them,, it wasn't fixed over the phone, they had a guy scheduled to come look at it.. but then the next morning it was working fine. *shrugs*

That's about it. Other than that it's been rock solid.

One little nit-picky thing... there's a 1-second lag from when you press the channel button to when you see the program on-screen. Waggghhhh!! Smile


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - Filliam H. Muffman - 11-26-2008

Verizon Landline Executive Customer Service http://consumerist.com/342219/updated-reach-verizon-landline-executive-customer-service

Your story is pretty good. You might send it to The Consumerist before they close down. Verizon can't be too bad, they didn't even make it into the Sweet 16 of the Worst Companies In America. Wink http://consumerist.com/5008191/round-36-debeers-vs-verizon


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - Mr645 - 11-26-2008

ztirffritz wrote:
That is why I stick with DSL. When was the last time that the landline phones went down for more than a few minutes? It isn't quite as fast, but it works more reliably. I get my TV shows off of the internet so no need for cable.

Last hurricane we lost land phones for 40 days. But to be fair, cable was out for 30 days and not so reliable for a few weeks after that. I'm just glad power was out for less then an hour. Cell phones worked for 2-3 days, then all went down for a few days, then were back up. OUr local cable co offers phones service, but the phone interface does come with a battery back up and uses a different signal then cable TV or internet, or at least I was told that the phone will work even if cable and internet are down in most cases


Re: 2 hours on the phone with Verizon, and my TV still looks like this- (long + pics) - Article Accelerator - 11-26-2008

billb wrote:
Isn't all this wonderful dependable modern technology the greatest? Just one of the many reasons I've gone backwards to OTA

Back to the future, billb. OTA is better quality than any gatekeeper's signal and free too.