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Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - laarree - 12-05-2008
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/12/04/adobe.layoffs/
"The company blamed its revenue troubles on a lack of demand for
Creative Suite 4 since its October launch."
No wonder they're not doing a booth at MacWorld San Francisco.
I guess my $600 purchase of the CS4 Design Premium upgrade
was not enough to save 600 jobs. :-(
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - MacArtist - 12-05-2008
Here's one thing that might have sparked more demand...
Write the damn thing for 64bit (Cocoa) and quit whining about Apple pulling the plug on Carbon. It's done. Steve explained that Carbon was a temporary bridge to make apps OS X compatible.
A large undertaking? I supposed. But does putting it off making it any cheaper?
There's a few features in Photoshop CS4 that would be handy but otherwise things are fine with the CS3 suite.
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - threeprong - 12-05-2008
CS4 is the first big app package that I haven't purchased upon it's introduction.
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - mikebw - 12-05-2008
I suspect that customers are not too excited about this rapid upgrade cycle. I mean I have been using CS1 for years now and just upgraded to CS3 last month. Do we really need a CS4 already?
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - papercup - 12-05-2008
For the most part, the suite apps are mature.
Unless Adobe finds/buys another golden technology must-have, the 18 month product cycle will get less and less important.
I upgrade because I want to. Most people/businesses only upgrade when they need to.
CS4 is mediocre.
The 64bit will sell CS5, maybe by then the hardware will actually know what to do with it.
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - laarree - 12-05-2008
I preferred upgrading individual Adobe apps as needed in the good
old days before the Creative Suites, although I haven't compared the
expense of doing it one way versus the other.
Would the Adobe apps being Cocoa and 64-bit have sparked more
demand? I have no performance complaints about any of the CS3
or CS4 apps on my MacPro, and I often work on Photoshop files
as large as 1 GB. Photoshop CS4 now takes advantage of your
video card's GPU FWIW.
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - will2000 - 12-05-2008
Adobe tried to squeeze too much money out of its customers with too many upgrades too fast with little additional benefit.
Our graphics guy has a dual G5, 2.7 GHz with CS2 and when we discussed an upgrade we concluded everything was fine for now. We will upgrade to a Mac Pro with CS4 when our main packaging supplier starts requesting files in CS4.
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - JoeM - 12-05-2008
It's just too bad 600 people have to suffer due to Adobe's poor buisness plan. IMHO, they were once a pretty cool company but I think over the last 5 or so years they got a little smug and greedy.
Maybe they will wind up making a trip to Capitol Hill behind all the other big shots?
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - Silencio - 12-05-2008
Adobe lost its soul when the marketing guys (Bruce Chizen, et al.) took over from the engineering guys (Warnock and Geschke). The way they price and bundle their products nowadays really forces you into buying a bunch of stuff you really don't need.
If they want more business, they should make their a la carte pricing more appealing while still preserving at least some respectable discount for buying the bundles they want to push you into. Oh, and actually release compelling products that make people want up upgrade in the first place. CS4 seems pretty solid for the most part, but doesn't exactly jump out as a no-brainer upgrade to me or any of my clients.
Oh, and I hope all my friends working at Adobe survive the cuts!
Re: Adobe laying off 600, citing weak demand for CS4 suites - Yoyodyne ArtWorks - 12-05-2008
In the olden days, Adobe only released new versions of software when they had actually come up with worthwhile new features. But as many of you have noted Adobe now follows an MS-style fixed upgrade schedule, and we're seeing the many problems such avarice brings.