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Calling all HDMI experts - JJ - 12-07-2008
Here is what I am assuming. Please correct me if I am wrong.
1. HDMI is a digital standard.
2. NTSC and PAL are analog standards.
3. NTSC and PAL are therefore irrelevant when connecting two devices via HDMI.
The reason I am asking is I am considering buying a large UK plasma screen TV. I can't have a US plasma shipped and my source for multisystem TVs (AAFES) just doesn't have what I want.
My current TV is a multisystem HD LCD, so it works fine with all of my devices.
I have many US HDMI devices (AppleTV, PS3, XBOX 360). If assumption 3 above is correct, then I have no worries. If not then I will have to wait for AAFES.
JJ
I live in the UK, so I know all of the other issues. Just want an answer to the HDMI question please.
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - JJ - 12-07-2008
Also, I am not concerned about the broadcast ATSC vs. DVB standards. I get my TV from Sky, so I know it will work with a UK TV. Also, I will not be bringing the TV back to the US.
TIA
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - Doc - 12-07-2008
Interesting discussion:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/high-definition-tv-hardware/833800-ntsc-vs-pal-confusion.html
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - colonel panic - 12-07-2008
Items 2 and 3 are incorrect. The NTSC (30) and PAL (25) standards are based on frame rates, whether it is digital or analog. Without going in to a very lengthy technical explanation, just know that the two are not compatible.
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - JJ - 12-07-2008
colonel panic wrote:
Items 2 and 3 are incorrect. The NTSC (30) and PAL (25) standards are based on frame rates, whether it is digital or analog. Without going in to a very lengthy technical explanation, just know that the two are not compatible.
Would this have anything to do with the 50Hz vs. 60Hz difference I see popping up in a lot of the online forums? NTSC 30 X 2 would be 60 and PAL 50 X 2 would be 50.
Also, I wouldn't mind reading a technical discussion if you could kindly point me to one.
JJ
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - JJ - 12-07-2008
Here is a link to one of the TVs I am considering. Note it handles NTSC, not sure if it will work over HDMI though.
http://www.panasonic.co.uk:80/html/en_GB/870440/index.html?trackInfo=true
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - JJ - 12-08-2008
Thanks for the link Doc.
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - Lux Interior - 12-08-2008
I feel your pain.
I bought a Philips LCD before moving to France. It had a dual voltage power supply, so I thought I was set. I wasn't planning on watching any PAL sources (eg DVD players or analog TV). I thought that digital TV had done away with all of the 480 vs 576 nonsense. I bought a PAL/NTSC region free DVD player and I was getting my TV through Neuf and would connect to the TV box with HDMI.
Then I got worried and did some research. I found out that there was STILL the 50 vs 60 Hz signal frequency (nothing to do with power supply) and I confirmed that my TV would ONLY take the 60 Hz signal. I bought an expensive contraption that was supposed to take any signal and convert it to any other signal. I figured I was still ahead vs. buying a TV in Paris (not cheap!).
So I get to the moment of truth and try to connect my Neuf box to the TV w/o the converter gadget. To my relief, I am offered the option of a native resolution (1080i/60), so I don't need to worry about the converter.
BUT, out of curiosity, I try the 50 Hz signal and it works too! Although the manual explicitly states that my TV only takes the 60 Hz signal! This is all via HDMI.
Fast forward to this month and I want to get a Wii. But all the boxes clearly state PAL on them. Again, I am worried. I connect the Wii to my AV receiver and then... A crappy picture! Fortunately, this is due to some problem going from the composite video on the Wii, to the component out on my AV receiver, which is too old for HDMI. Luckily, using the composite out on the AV receiver and connecting it to another input on the TV solved the issue (I could just hook it to the TV directly, but then I have to use the TV for sound). So, my TV is taking a PAL signal again! However, I believe the Wii only does 480, so I'm not sure it really is PAL.
Maybe I'm just rambling, but you should be fine. I think the key here is that all HDTVs in the EU are required to support NTSC and PAL. At least that's what I read a year ago when doing my research.
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - MacMagus - 12-08-2008
The Wii does 720p if you have a component cable. I'd try it.
Re: Calling all HDMI experts - Lux Interior - 12-08-2008
MacMagus wrote:
The Wii does 720p if you have a component cable. I'd try it.
Are you sure? I did order the component cable from monoprice, but I thought it was still a 480p output.