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Did we miss the words for the shoes? - loveshine - 12-19-2008
From an editorial in the LA Times yesterday http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-brooks18-2008dec18,0,7437766.story
Maybe no one had bothered to translate Zaidi's Arabic words for the president. As Zaidi threw the first shoe, he cried,
"This is a gift from the Iraqis; this is the farewell kiss, you dog!"
As he flung the second, he was even more explicit:
"This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq!"
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - mattkime - 12-20-2008
I often find that when i throw shoes, the finer points of my message are often overlooked.
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - Black Landlord - 12-20-2008
No, I've seen that description in almost every account of the incident I've read.
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - kj - 12-20-2008
What I think has been largely missed by the media is that even a novice shoe-thrower knows that the "beanee" is going to try to evade the throw, usually by ducking. While he may have had pretty good velocity, he aimed directly at Bush's head, when a person with even modest experience would have compensated by throwing a bit "low". For that reason, I don't even think he was a real Muslim, but rather a plant. Probably some liberal who's never thrown anything at anyone. kj.
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - loveshine - 12-20-2008
> No, I've seen that description in almost every account of the incident I've read.
Where did you see this?
I am surprised as I did not hear it on even one main stream news cast where the incident was covered.
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - Black Landlord - 12-20-2008
loveshine wrote:
> No, I've seen that description in almost every account of the incident I've read.
Where did you see this?
I am surprised as I did not hear it on even one main stream news cast where the incident was covered.
Dunno, wherever I usually get my news-- whatever's linked from Yahoo News, or this board, probably. I recall being impressed with the readiness of the media to give the shoe-thrower a platform by airing his exact gripe. In any event this isn't breaking news, sorry. But thanks for posting :-)
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - davester - 12-20-2008
loveshine wrote:
> No, I've seen that description in almost every account of the incident I've read.
Where did you see this?
I am surprised as I did not hear it on even one main stream news cast where the incident was covered.
What? Where do you get your info? You should definitely consider changing your sources of information. I too have seen multiple repetitions of these same statements from many different news organizations, and I'm only talking about mainstream news sources. Do you have Google where you live?
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - mikeylikesit - 12-20-2008
davester wrote:
[quote=loveshine]
> No, I've seen that description in almost every account of the incident I've read.
Where did you see this?
I am surprised as I did not hear it on even one main stream news cast where the incident was covered.
What? Where do you get your info? You should definitely consider changing your sources of information. I too have seen multiple repetitions of these same statements from many different news organizations, and I'm only talking about mainstream news sources. Do you have Google where you live?
I also recall there were almost instantaneous translations -- at least in the stories I read.
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - Gutenberg - 12-20-2008
I think the difference is this. People who get at least some of their news from a newspaper source know about what was said. People who get their news mainly from video, and sometimes from video and internet (particularly You Tube), probably did not hear what was said.
Re: Did we miss the words for the shoes? - Black Landlord - 12-20-2008
Gutenberg wrote:
I think the difference is this. People who get at least some of their news from a newspaper source know about what was said. People who get their news mainly from video, and sometimes from video and internet (particularly You Tube), probably did not hear what was said.
I think this is a fair assessment.