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another vista story - beerman - 12-31-2008
I was at my dry cleaners today and they recently upgraded from dos to vista and bought a new program to track their inventory. Well apparently it wouldn't work despite the software companies assurances. So they downgraded to xp and everything is spanky. Seems like there is no end to these stories. Either Vista is stinky or software developers aren't updating very well.
Re: another vista story - GGD - 12-31-2008
I wonder what prompted them to upgrade from DOS to any version of Windows now? They apparently had something that worked well for them for a few decades, why mess with it.
Re: another vista story - iaJim - 12-31-2008
Maybe the hardware died.
Re: another vista story - cbelt3 - 12-31-2008
vista kept identifying "extra starch" as malware ?
Re: another vista story - ztirffritz - 12-31-2008
Microsoft has hired an army of people to dig their hole for them. Vista is a disaster. Windows 7 is based on the same codebase, but they've disabled many of the features that were supposed to be security features of Vista that just ended up pissing everyone off. That made Vista nothing more than a slow version of XP.
They still don't have WinFS available and probably won't ever finish it. In the meantime, the OpenSource community has created no fewer than 4 file systems and 1 murder case. Apple has upgraded their tired and worn down filesystem, though they'll need something new soon too. ZFS is probably their next stop.
Re: another vista story - Harooneneutics - 12-31-2008
I installed Vista Business (got a copy for $8 through my employer) on an older PC that I have (P4 2.8 with 1.5 gigs of ram). It's really not as bad as I expected, given the all the negative press. The installer even helpfully identified a program--an older version of a Roxio CD/DVD burning app--that wouldn't work under Vista.
The downside is that it's definitely more of a resource hog than XP, which isn't a big deal for me since this isn't my main tower. But the job of deploying Vista at even a medium-sized business seems like it could be a nightmare, which I guess explains why so many are resisting.
Re: another vista story - ztirffritz - 12-31-2008
I manage about 200 PCs at 3 different sites in Washington and Illinois. None of the PCs have been significantly updated since Win2k. It has been a replace-as-needed schedule. The Win2k machines all upgraded to XP just fine. My boss asked me to look into installing Vista and was disturbed to find that we'd need to replace nearly 150 machines out of 200. It isn't the cost of Vista that is the obstacle. It is the hardware. I'm sure that we'd do OK with Vista, but it would be a pain for a while. The bigger problem is the hardware. No printer drivers, video drivers, needed software upgrades, etc are all problems that we could work around. But there is no good reason to upgrade if it doesn't really improve anything. It is no more resistant to viruses than XP. It is slower, requires beefier machines, and provides not tangible business benefit. He was not happy about it. I was actually able to provide a better argument for switching to Macs than upgrading to Vista. Linux looked even better because it ran faster on older existing machines, meaning that not only would the user experience improve, but hardware replacement costs would go DOWN. I would actually be able to bring older machines out of retirement and start using them again. For now we've decided to wait until Windows 7, but I think that will probably be skipped too. From what I've read, Windows 7 is just Vista with some UI tweaks.
Re: another vista story - silvarios - 01-01-2009
iaJim wrote:
Maybe the hardware died.
You can still by computers with DOS pre-installed.
Nathan