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this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - NewtonMP2100 - 01-12-2009
. . .amazon already charges me. . .
Buying on Web to avoid sales taxes could end soon
. . .Shopping online can be a way to find bargains while steering clear of crowds — and sales taxes.
But those tax breaks are starting to erode. With the recession pummeling states' budgets, their governments increasingly want to fill the gaps by collecting taxes on Internet sales, which are growing even as the economy shudders.
And that is sparking conflict with companies that do business online only and have enjoyed being able to offer sales-tax free shopping.
One of the most aggressive states, New York, is being sued by Amazon.com Inc. over a new requirement that online companies must collect taxes on shipments to New York residents, even if the companies are located elsewhere. New York's governor also wants to tax "Taxman" covers and other songs downloaded from Internet services like iTunes.
The amount of money at stake nationwide is unclear; online sales were expected to make up about 8 percent of all retail sales in 2008 and total $204 billion, according to Forrester Research. This is up from $175 billion in 2007.
Based on that 2008 figure, Forrester analyst Sucharita Mulpuru says her rough estimate is that if Web retailers had to collect taxes on all sales to consumers, it could generate $3 billion in new revenue for governments. . .
. . .In hopes of unraveling the complex tax rules — and bringing states more money — 22 states and many brick-and-mortar retailers support the efforts of a group called the Streamlined Sales Tax Governing Board. The group is getting states to simplify and make uniform their numerous tax rates and rules, in exchange for a crack at taxing online sales.
Among other things, participating states need to change how they define things such as "food" and "clothing." For example, one state might now consider a T-shirt clothing and tax it as such, while another might consider it a sporting good and tax it differently.
In response, more than 1,100 retailers have registered with the streamlining group and are collecting sales taxes on items shipped to states that are part of the agreement — even if they are not legally obligated to. . .
the beginning of the END. . .
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - Z - 01-12-2009
Wonder if we end up with a GST / VAT sort of structure in the end...
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - Jack D. - 01-12-2009
We need another Revolution! Pretty soon they'll be taxing the taxes. Too much Gubmint as it is.
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - GGD - 01-12-2009
Jack D. wrote:
We need another Revolution! Pretty soon they'll be taxing the taxes. Too much Gubmint as it is.
In California they tax the bottle/recycling deposit (which is in some ways a tax) when you purchase the beverage, but if you turn in bottles to get the deposit back, they don't refund the sales tax that was paid on the deposit.
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - AlphaDog - 01-12-2009
Some of us haven't been getting much of a break anyway, since Amazon is headquartered in our state. There will be a couple of online vendors that I use occasionally that may no longer be tax free, but it sure won't be significant in the big scheme of things. Ho hum. States might as well make up for some of those lost revenues somehow; most of the time the buyer is still saving money on the cost of the goods and the time/effort/gas for shopping, so you'll all survive. You'll gripe, but you'll survive.
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - mattkime - 01-12-2009
>>most of the time the buyer is still saving money on the cost of the goods and the time/effort/gas for shopping
thats what i'ev found with amazon. didn't want to pay the tax but they're still a bunch cheaper.
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - hal - 01-13-2009
you mean you haven't declared the taxes due on your state tax form? SHAME!
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - M>B> - 01-13-2009
In California one is supposed to voluntary pay sales tax on out of state purchases. I see it becoming mandatory in the future.
From a Ca. Gov. publication...
Use tax may also apply to purchases shipped to a California consumer from another state, including purchases made by mail order, telephone, or Internet.
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - kap - 01-13-2009
Jack D. wrote:
We need another Revolution! Pretty soon they'll be taxing the taxes. Too much Gubmint as it is.
A good example of taxing on tax: the unemployment benefits.
Re: this ENDS right here...right now!. . .no sales tax for online purchases may be ending. . . - Jack D. - 01-13-2009
kap wrote:
[quote=Jack D.]
We need another Revolution! Pretty soon they'll be taxing the taxes. Too much Gubmint as it is.
A good example of taxing on tax: the unemployment benefits.
As it so happens I'm currently very familiar with unemployment benefits...