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[Mr645]

The credit card is maxed out, spending has to stop. Biden refuses to negotiate with Republicans on spending cuts, wants to add $2 trillion in debt next year

[Lemon Drop]

Mr645 wrote:
The credit card is maxed out, spending has to stop. Biden refuses to negotiate with Republicans on spending cuts, wants to add $2 trillion in debt next year

Governmemt debt is not at all like revolving consumer debt. Macroeconomics, check it out.

[Ted King]

Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
The credit card is maxed out, spending has to stop. Biden refuses to negotiate with Republicans on spending cuts, wants to add $2 trillion in debt next year

Governmemt debt is not at all like revolving consumer debt. Macroeconomics, check it out.
Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman explains that here (reader view - the paper with text icon in the URL window - works on Firefox):

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/02/opini...-debt.html

(Not the Mr645 will read it and actually try to understand it.)

And Mr645's post betrays that he sees the solution to the deficit problems as only one of cutting spending - ignoring that increasing revenues (primarily through tax increases on the wealthy) is also just as effective at reducing the deficit. And his post ignores what I have pointed out to him before that Biden is telling the Republicans to negotiate their demands through the normal budget process, not through holding a gun to head of the economy to blackmail us into giving into their demands.

[Lemon Drop]

Too early for 2024 predictions. We don't know who will be on the GOP ticket. Nikki Haley has raked in a lot of cash over the past 2 years, corporations and wealthy individual donors love her. They do not love DeSantis, or Pence.

I'm sure the White House wants Trump as their opponent again, but it could be someone who pulls away the Republicans who voted for Biden in 2020. If that happens, then yeah the Senate will go too.

[Ted King]

Lemon Drop wrote:
Too early for 2024 predictions. We don't know who will be on the GOP ticket. Nikki Haley has raked in a lot of cash over the past 2 years, corporations and wealthy individual donors love her. They do not love DeSantis, or Pence.

I'm sure the White House wants Trump as their opponent again, but it could be someone who pulls away the Republicans who voted for Biden in 2020. If that happens, then yeah the Senate will go too.

I think vision63's graphic in the OP is spot on about the seats most likely to be open to change. I do think that the broad sentiment on things like abortion rights will make it more likely than not that Democrats will keep seats in Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Ohio (Tester in Montana is kinda a unique thing) but specific circumstances in Arizona and West Virginia make them much less likely to stay in the Democratic column in spite of any widespread sentiments.

[vision63]

Mr645 wrote:
The credit card is maxed out, spending has to stop. Biden refuses to negotiate with Republicans on spending cuts, wants to add $2 trillion in debt next year

They don't care about spending cuts. It's just performance.