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You should be able to install the native client for Macs and then sign in with your O365 credentials. The download should be in your account when sign in...
If they were on an enterprise plan, this is probably going away.
The new/rebranded Microsoft 365 plans for business start with cloud-only subscriptions. It's not just for .edu anymore.
Depends on what level you buy, AKA how cheap your employer is. I'm still trying to work out Microsoft licensing for work to get what we need but not at an insane price. First quote was $22k per year for 3000 students, 350 staff, 2 VM ware hosts and 2 dozen VMs.
I'm looking at the same reality as Sekker's institution. Dump Office for the web versions and save about $18K and then buy a limited number of perpetual volume licenses for Office 2019 to cover the power users in Finance and Secretaries.
I can definitely see for a large organization seeing that bill and saying, well, the free one will just have to do.
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Thanks, all. Though useful, the category that is baffling me:
1) Our organization owns thousands of perpetual licenses for Office 2016. I know, I purchased many of them through my office. These are on existing and managed devices.
2) This functionality THAT WE ALREADY PAID FOR is being deprecated. So business, NOT PERSONAL, devices are losing Office 2016 for cloud-only tools.
Are you telling me that a full managed device (which may or may not include a keystroke recorder) is less safe than a personal device using the web client for Office 365? If that's the argument, what BS.
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I have the local apps as well as the 365 license. Our corporate Exchange server seems to need reboots all the time. Sometimes I lose all my emails, and it takes hours to repopulate them on my MBP and iPhone. I wonder if it's our IT or Microsoft?
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sekker wrote:
Thanks, all. Though useful, the category that is baffling me:
1) Our organization owns thousands of perpetual licenses for Office 2016. I know, I purchased many of them through my office. These are on existing and managed devices.
2) This functionality THAT WE ALREADY PAID FOR is being deprecated. So business, NOT PERSONAL, devices are losing Office 2016 for cloud-only tools.
"Deprecated" doesn't mean "terminated."
If you have a perpetual license and they aren't actively removing the software from your computer there's no particular reason to stop using it.
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Buck wrote:
I have the local apps as well as the 365 license. Our corporate Exchange server seems to need reboots all the time. Sometimes I lose all my emails, and it takes hours to repopulate them on my MBP and iPhone. I wonder if it's our IT or Microsoft?
Might be none of the above.
See if webmail works when that happens. If OWA is working then the problem may just be with activesync on the server and isolating it to that component may help IT if you open a ticket.
If your mailboxes are empty in OWA then it points to a corrupt mailbox. They might be able to make you a new one (resetting the entirety of your email/calendar/contacts) and fix it moving forward.
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Buck wrote:
I have the local apps as well as the 365 license. Our corporate Exchange server seems to need reboots all the time. Sometimes I lose all my emails, and it takes hours to repopulate them on my MBP and iPhone. I wonder if it's our IT or Microsoft?
Probably a bit of both. Exchange has always been a bit fragile, IT practices can make it much worse.
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Sarcany wrote:
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Thanks, all. Though useful, the category that is baffling me:
1) Our organization owns thousands of perpetual licenses for Office 2016. I know, I purchased many of them through my office. These are on existing and managed devices.
2) This functionality THAT WE ALREADY PAID FOR is being deprecated. So business, NOT PERSONAL, devices are losing Office 2016 for cloud-only tools.
"Deprecated" doesn't mean "terminated."
If you have a perpetual license and they aren't actively removing the software from your computer there's no particular reason to stop using it.
As I posted, 'depracated' DOES mean 'terminated'. They started by blocking OneDrive client on the Mac (which literally is not allowed to connect to OneDrive); this single step guts a series of interconnectivity.
They have followed by making Outlook have reduced (though not yet blocked) functionality.
It's like watching my entire toolbox slowly stop working.
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As I posted, 'depracated' DOES mean 'terminated'. They started by blocking OneDrive client on the Mac (which literally is not allowed to connect to OneDrive); this single step guts a series of interconnectivity...
They may not have done that deliberately.
I've had clients lose OneDrive after a server migration. Platform-support is enabled with a checkbox deep in the settings and by default it will not support Macs. Of course, getting someone from IT to update that setting is next to impossible. So, Mac users inevitably have to use the web app which is iffy under Safari. Chrome works pretty well, but it's... Chrome... so I can't recommend it.
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Sarcany wrote:
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As I posted, 'depracated' DOES mean 'terminated'. They started by blocking OneDrive client on the Mac (which literally is not allowed to connect to OneDrive); this single step guts a series of interconnectivity...
They may not have done that deliberately.
I've had clients lose OneDrive after a server migration. Platform-support is enabled with a checkbox deep in the settings and by default it will not support Macs. Of course, getting someone from IT to update that setting is next to impossible. So, Mac users inevitably have to use the web app which is iffy under Safari. Chrome works pretty well, but it's... Chrome... so I can't recommend it.
Alas, I wish this were true. The shutoff is intentional and, in this case, deliberate due to 'security concerns'.
Those concerns are NOT shared by Microsoft, their support documents, or Apple.
But I digress. There could be a simple case of Hanlon's Razor.
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