Exactly when should I be turning on every light & appliance I own??? I'm not really sure on this--can I have a date & ti

[freeradical]

Carnos Jax wrote:
[quote=swampy]Of course clean coal development is not cheap. But we'd probably be much closer to achieving it if liberal environmentalists had not been fighting it so hard for so long. Natural gas is another possible solution, but has met the same objections from the same environmental zealots. Nuclear has met the same fate. Drilling too.

Cap and trade seems to be the liberal solution, but it solves nothing when the infrastructure for renewable energy is still 10-15 years away. You could put a bazillion windmills across the plains today, but there's no way to store its energy or transport it to the rest of the country. Taxing energy production is only a scheme to raise more revenues for the insatiable government's need for money, power and control. It's not a solution to our energy problem. It's a penalty on business and industry caused by lack of action by our failed drive for energy independence dating back to the 60's and 70's.

I don't even know where to begin here. Transport energy...what's the national power grid? You really believe the government is power hungry? You should critically think for yourself about the issues instead of taking points from Republican manifestos.
This is sad but true. Here's an interesting article on this very problem from the NYT.

"The dirty secret of clean energy is that while generating it is getting easier, moving it to market is not."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/busine....html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=energy%20transmission&st=cse

[Lux Interior]

freeradical wrote:
This is sad but true. Here's an interesting article on this very problem from the NYT.

"The dirty secret of clean energy is that while generating it is getting easier, moving it to market is not."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/busine....html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=energy%20transmission&st=cse

Good article, but we've known the limitations of the grid for quite sometime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_North_...a_blackout

It needs to be upgraded. I'm not movin' to the Dakotas.

[RgrF]

The Big Picture

[Mac1337]

You must also be one of those who boycotted gas purchases on a Sunday which broke the back of oil companies.

[Rick-o]

Dakota wrote:
Was I wrong?

Yes, about 99% of your posts are "wrong".

Stop repeating the incorrect BS from your boss Rush, and you could greatly improve your accuracy. Although, that probably wouldn't pay as well.

[Mac1337]

Rick-o wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
Was I wrong?

Yes, about 99% of your posts are "wrong".

Stop repeating the incorrect BS from your boss Rush, and you could greatly improve your accuracy. Although, that probably wouldn't pay as well.
I am sorry but I have to continue to annoy you by being 99% wrong.

[Rick-o]

Annoyed? Um, that is incorrect.

Rush has taught you well. Let's see you balance that ball on your nose!

[Mac1337]

Rick-o wrote:
Annoyed? Um, that is incorrect.

Rush has taught you well. Let's see you balance that ball on your nose!

Rush? You mean that nutjob nobody listens to?

[davester]

Dakota needs to have people annoyed at him in order to validate his trolling. He repeatedly makes comments about how upset and angry people are at him, when in fact most of us simply find him mildly pathetic and amusing, sort of like the seals with the balls. Another frequent repetition is his incorrect claim that we think that nobody listens to Rush. He has been instructed otherwise multiple times but clings to this silliness for some obscure reason that must bring him happiness in some way.

[Bill in NC]

There is no national U.S. power grid.

However, there do seem to be sufficient interconnections between the regional grids to cause cascading failures every decade or so.

Moving electricity from wind turbines in the center of the U.S. to where it is needed on the coasts woud require a substantial investment in new transmission lines, hopefully in something like HVDC to reduce transmission losses.