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kanesa · 02-28-2011, 02:34 AM

The protesters at the WI Capitol were told the doors were closing at 4pm today for cleaning. Protesters have spent every night in the Capitol since the rallies started. Now you have to understand , the Capitol Police were not part of the exemption for police, firefighters, and State Patrol. (Nor were the UW University Police) They were going to lose their collective rights, too. So they started telling protesters they would have to leave at 4pm. They would hope everyone would voluntarily leave. No one has been arrested through all these weeks of protest.

To add more fun to the mix, police officers (off duty) from Wisconsin Police Unions have joined the crowd and are declaring they are spending the night, too.

The Capitol Police have backed down and said everyone can spend the night. Power to the People!! :patriot:

Supposedly, Senator Dale Schultz-R has declared he is voting no on the budget bill. I hope this is true. He did try to compromise with an amendment but Walker said no. Only need 2 more senators to Kill the Bill.

It's still a long shot though.

Mac1337 · 02-28-2011, 04:28 AM

"The Department of Administration said the Capitol is in bad need of cleaning after 13 days of 24-hour occupation. Protesters have not trashed the building, but it has taken on the funky locker room aroma of body odor, sweaty feet and deodorant."

kap · 02-28-2011, 05:01 AM

Have they cut off the whole-house air filter as they have done with the WiFi connection?

Mac1337 · 02-28-2011, 05:31 AM

One point that Walker brought up on MTP today was interesting. Everybody says unions have agreed to pay for their benefits. Walker says they can't because there is not just one union to deal with.

WALKER: But when I -- my point is, they can't. Because they, the two people that suggested

Lux Interior · 02-28-2011, 08:37 AM

Grace62 · 02-28-2011, 03:44 PM

I'm so sick of the misleading crap that emerges from Walker's mouth.

The WEA has issued their response to the governor's remarks:

"February 28, 2011

Governor Walker has made statements recently regarding the WEA Trust on national media as well as his local addresses. We want to take this opportunity to respond.

Governor Walker has stated that school districts are “forced” to buy from the WEA Trust.

* School boards bargain their benefits and carriers. The Trust only provides health insurance benefits to approximately 35% of public school employees in Wisconsin. Some of the largest school districts in Wisconsin such as Milwaukee, Madison, and Green Bay are self-insured or purchase from companies other than the Trust. Our contracts are with the school districts—not with the unions.
* Wisconsin’s health insurance industry is highly competitive and districts already solicit bids. The Trust gains and loses districts all the time. A recent example of this is the Kenosha Unified School District, which left the Trust and has returned, much due to our competitive pricing.

For example:
Trust rate increases have been BELOW national averages for the past three years. For the fourth year in a row the Trust has delivered a mid single-digit base rate increase...."

http://www.weatrust.com/wea/weamain.nsf/...450053A6C3

mini14 · 02-28-2011, 10:55 PM

LET them stay, who cares? It won't change what's going to happen.
Unionism are just a fragile disguise worn by weak and selfish people
to get more than they deserve. They will soon have the opportunity to
choose which side they're on. Choose wisely. The governor and the
police did not respond to the protesters provocation, which steals
energy from the protest. Smart move. It's right out of Saul Alinsky's
Rules for Radicals, turned against the leftist protestors.

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kanesa Unregistered Posts: 2,460 Threads: 142 Joined: Jan 2021 #1 02-28-2011, 02:34 AM The protesters at the WI Capitol were told the doors were closing at 4pm today for cleaning. Protesters have spent every night in the Capitol since the rallies started. Now you have to understand , the Capitol Police were not part of the exemption for police, firefighters, and State Patrol. (Nor were the UW University Police) They were going to lose their collective rights, too. So they started telling protesters they would have to leave at 4pm. They would hope everyone would voluntarily leave. No one has been arrested through all these weeks of protest. To add more fun to the mix, police officers (off duty) from Wisconsin Police Unions have joined the crowd and are declaring they are spending the night, too. The Capitol Police have backed down and said everyone can spend the night. Power to the People!! :patriot: Supposedly, Senator Dale Schultz-R has declared he is voting no on the budget bill. I hope this is true. He did try to compromise with an amendment but Walker said no. Only need 2 more senators to Kill the Bill. It's still a long shot though. Find Reply Mac1337 Posting Freak Posts: 15,647 Threads: 1,310 Joined: Aug 2013 Reputation: 0 #2 02-28-2011, 04:28 AM "The Department of Administration said the Capitol is in bad need of cleaning after 13 days of 24-hour occupation. Protesters have not trashed the building, but it has taken on the funky locker room aroma of body odor, sweaty feet and deodorant." Find Reply kap Unregistered Posts: 17,354 Threads: 3,275 Joined: Mar 2025 #3 02-28-2011, 05:01 AM Have they cut off the whole-house air filter as they have done with the WiFi connection? Find Reply Mac1337 Posting Freak Posts: 15,647 Threads: 1,310 Joined: Aug 2013 Reputation: 0 #4 02-28-2011, 05:31 AM One point that Walker brought up on MTP today was interesting. Everybody says unions have agreed to pay for their benefits. Walker says they can't because there is not just one union to deal with. WALKER: But when I -- my point is, they can't. Because they, the two people that suggested	are statewide union leaders. There are 1,000-plus municipalities, there's 400 -- more than 424 school districts, there's 72 counties. I know -- I used to be a county executive for eight years -- I know that collective bargaining has to be done in every jurisdiction. They can't guarantee that. And the actions of those local unions in the past two weeks show that. If they were serious about it, they would have offered up contracts that -- that paid something for health care and something more for pensions. But they're not." This is interesting, "The reality is, even beyond the five and the 12, collective bargaining does have a cost. In Wisconsin, a great example of that is, we have -- in many of our school districts, a requirement to collective bargaining contract that they have to buy their health insurance from a company that's owned by our state teachers union, W.A. Trust. Because of that it costs them up to $68 million more than if they could just buy it from the state employee health care plans. Those are real costs, about putting real money in the classrooms, instead -- in -- into these collective bargaining agreements." Find Reply Lux Interior Freak Poster Posts: 27,875 Threads: 759 Joined: May 2025 Reputation: 2 #5 02-28-2011, 08:37 AM Find Reply Grace62 Posting Freak Posts: 8,440 Threads: 599 Joined: Dec 2012 Reputation: 0 #6 02-28-2011, 03:44 PM I'm so sick of the misleading crap that emerges from Walker's mouth. The WEA has issued their response to the governor's remarks: "February 28, 2011 Governor Walker has made statements recently regarding the WEA Trust on national media as well as his local addresses. We want to take this opportunity to respond. Governor Walker has stated that school districts are “forced” to buy from the WEA Trust. * School boards bargain their benefits and carriers. The Trust only provides health insurance benefits to approximately 35% of public school employees in Wisconsin. Some of the largest school districts in Wisconsin such as Milwaukee, Madison, and Green Bay are self-insured or purchase from companies other than the Trust. Our contracts are with the school districts—not with the unions. * Wisconsin’s health insurance industry is highly competitive and districts already solicit bids. The Trust gains and loses districts all the time. A recent example of this is the Kenosha Unified School District, which left the Trust and has returned, much due to our competitive pricing. For example: Trust rate increases have been BELOW national averages for the past three years. For the fourth year in a row the Trust has delivered a mid single-digit base rate increase...." http://www.weatrust.com/wea/weamain.nsf/...450053A6C3 Find Reply mini14 Member Posts: 61 Threads: 6 Joined: Mar 2011 Reputation: 0 #7 02-28-2011, 10:55 PM LET them stay, who cares? It won't change what's going to happen. Unionism are just a fragile disguise worn by weak and selfish people to get more than they deserve. They will soon have the opportunity to choose which side they're on. Choose wisely. The governor and the police did not respond to the protesters provocation, which steals energy from the protest. Smart move. It's right out of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, turned against the leftist protestors. Find Reply
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