Barkley has something to say…….

[samintx]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...-1.2709522

He is making some sense.

[rjmacs]

The dullest of bland and useless comments entirely lacking in insight or value. Typical of someone not interested in doing anything other than being on TV for his own self-promotion. Skip.

[vision63]

BLM will eventually evolve into a political force. Right now it's in its nascent stages and nothing is perfect. They have to not quit, avoid purism and develop strong coalitions. At some point it will pivot to being political. It may not be all that recognizable as it begins to absorb and advocate on behalf of poverty, substance, homelessness and education issues that riddle disadvantaged communities.

[silvarios]

Black Lives Matter is important for the sole reason that too long we have thought of the USA as a post racial society, but there's enough institutional bias to see we have a long way to go. I don't fear the police stopping or shooting me in the same way some of my friends of color do. I'm a WASP by culture. Even if culturally I reject most trappings of traditional WASPy American society, I can understand people will view me a certain way and there's a level of privilege I benefit from just because of how I look.

In realization, all lives matter, but that's been co-opted as code for not understanding the trials and tribulations felt by certain sectors of our society. Economic divides are the biggest problem, where haves dictate to the have nots, but in this country we have states passing laws that overwhelmingly effect people of certain appearance. The "you don't look like you belong here" clearly targeting latinos, because no one is going to stop a German tourist and ask if they are allowed to be here. As another example, stop and frisk is a rather bad law that disproportionately targets certain minority groups.

[silvarios]

vision63 wrote:
BLM will eventually evolve into a political force. Right now it's in its nascent stages and nothing is perfect. They have to not quit, avoid purism and develop strong coalitions. At some point it will pivot to being political. It may not be all that recognizable as it begins to absorb and advocate on behalf of poverty, substance, homelessness and education issues that riddle disadvantaged communities.

Honestly, if BLM stays pure to the need to respond to institutionally bias (even if it grows to encompass combating other cultural biases) and doesn't just become a wing of a specific political party, that would be great. Co-option is death.

[rjmacs]

silvarios wrote:
Honestly, if BLM stays pure to the need to respond to institutionally bias (even if it grows to encompass combating other cultural biases) and doesn't just become a wing of a specific political party, that would be great. Co-option is death.

Can you point to some politically effective organizations of long-standing influence on racial matters in the U.S. that have remained politically non-coopted?

[silvarios]

rjmacs wrote:
[quote=silvarios]
Honestly, if BLM stays pure to the need to respond to institutionally bias (even if it grows to encompass combating other cultural biases) and doesn't just become a wing of a specific political party, that would be great. Co-option is death.

Can you point to some politically effective organizations of long-standing influence on racial matters in the U.S. that have remained politically non-coopted?
Not really. I'm actually an optimist, in contrast to my normally pessimistic comments. I actually think things should be better and get disappointed when they aren't. Darn human stain, mucks everything up, the answers are really so simple, sometimes we just fail as a society.