House GOP lays out case for Clinton perjury over emails

[SteveG]

Maybe the Congressmen should be wielding shovels instead...

"Search Resumes For Nazi Gold Train That Might Not Even Exist"
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/search...st-n632266

[silvarios]

Yeah, while it's not a Clinton only thing, these kinds of distractions are kind of annoying. Man up and move on. Just be an adult about it.

[silvarios]

Steve G. wrote:
Except that Bill Clinton isn't the Democratic candidate.

It's the same BS all the time. The Clintons are their biggest adversary. Can't get out of their own way.

[$tevie]

I am fed up with the Republicans and their nonstop efforts to "get" Hillary. I think they want revenge, because not only did Bill escape their clutches, he ended up more popular than before they went after him. So they are going to go to their graves trying to get his wife. It's a waste of time and money that they are supposed to be spending on governing the country.

[vision63]

silvarios wrote:
[quote=Steve G.]
Except that Bill Clinton isn't the Democratic candidate.

It's the same BS all the time. The Clintons are their biggest adversary. Can't get out of their own way.
This is "still" more bs.

[$tevie]

vision63 wrote:
[quote=silvarios]
[quote=Steve G.]
Except that Bill Clinton isn't the Democratic candidate.

It's the same BS all the time. The Clintons are their biggest adversary. Can't get out of their own way.
This is "still" more bs.
I think there's a certain amount of truth to that. The Clintons seem to have no ability to sit down and ask themselves "Is there any way to take what I am about to do and make it appear to be immoral/illicit/illegal/just plain wrong? Yes? Then perhaps I shouldn't do it." If you know people are dying to throw you out of office and/or into jail, shouldn't you be e x t r e m e l y mindful about your actions?

[vision63]

$tevie wrote:
[quote=vision63]
[quote=silvarios]
[quote=Steve G.]
Except that Bill Clinton isn't the Democratic candidate.

It's the same BS all the time. The Clintons are their biggest adversary. Can't get out of their own way.
This is "still" more bs.
I think there's a certain amount of truth to that. The Clintons seem to have no ability to sit down and ask themselves "Is there any way to take what I am about to do and make it appear to be immoral/illicit/illegal/just plain wrong? Yes? Then perhaps I shouldn't do it." If you know people are dying to throw you out of office and/or into jail, shouldn't you be e x t r e m e l y mindful about your actions?
Those are good rules for anybody. None of that kind of behavior is exclusive to the Clintons. The difference between them and others, is that if it wasn't emails it would be something else. Something we're not even discussing because like the emails, it was not an anomaly and but for the emails or the whatever, it's just not brought up. Why would she think doing what she did was obviously wrong when it was done by others to zero ridicule?

They will literally use "anything" like her "stools" to attack her and then liberals will half accept it for some reason.

[$tevie]

vision63 wrote: Why would she think doing what she did was obviously wrong when it was done by others to zero ridicule?

Because she is the one who pointed out that there was a vast right-wing conspiracy going on. She has known for almost two decades that if she breaks wind she will be accused of trying to poison the closest Republican. If I had people all over my case like that, I'd have five lawyers vet everything before I do it. Well, maybe not my poops but I'd be damned sure they were flushed all the way down before I left the ladies' room.

PS: this doesn't make the people persecuting (and attempting prosecuting) Clinton correct in my book by any means, for crying out loud. It is just that if I am walking among rattlesnake nests, then by golly I will try to avoid the rattlesnakes. I'm not going to walk around with dead mice strung around my neck.

[vision63]

$tevie wrote:
[quote=vision63]Why would she think doing what she did was obviously wrong when it was done by others to zero ridicule?

Because she is the one who pointed out that there was a vast right-wing conspiracy going on. She has known for almost two decades that if she breaks wind she will be accused of trying to poison the closest Republican. If I had people all over my case like that, I'd have five lawyers vet everything before I do it. Well, maybe not my poops but I'd be damned sure they were flushed all the way down before I left the ladies' room.

PS: this doesn't make the people persecuting (and attempting prosecuting) Clinton correct in my book by any means, for crying out loud. It is just that if I am walking among rattlesnake nests, then by golly I will try to avoid the rattlesnakes. I'm not going to walk around with dead mice strung around my neck.
I get that but I just don't see how it's avoidable. I think Obama's and his administration had a near impossible discipline and message control that was unprecedented. Virtually no scandal. I think because he was a highly educated and cunning man of color, he knew what would be waged against him. He never fed into any of it. I think that's how he's guiding Hillary. When something isn't unusual at the time, how then, does it become something that should have been vetted? I mean Colin Powell and his staff used gmail. So did Condie's staff. But "now" it's a big deal.

[pdq]

vision63 wrote:
I mean Colin Powell and his staff used gmail. So did Condie's staff. But "now" it's a big deal.

^ this.

Also, I honestly believe their past experience is what led the Clintons (plural) to have their own email server. They had folks peeking and prodding into every corner of their life for 20 years to try to take them down, or failing that, to embarrass them. Other SoS's had used non-governmental email, and the Clintons already had their own email set up, which they were familiar with and which was under their control. Can we just use that? Well, it's not recommended, but there's no law specifically against it.

Now people say "what were they thinking?" w/r/t the email setup. I think this is exactly what they were thinking.