OMG the man was Chinese

[Dennis S]

"Impossible to imagine them doing this to a white woman."

It wouldn't surprise me at all for them to do it to anyone.

[mrbigstuff]

Dennis S wrote:
"Impossible to imagine them doing this to a white woman."

It wouldn't surprise me at all for them to do it to anyone.

Agreed. This whole incident was really precipitated by the cops behaving like thugs. Of course, that's how we like our cops to behave in this country, as we allow it to continue.

[Dennis S]

mrbigstuff wrote:
[quote=Dennis S]
"Impossible to imagine them doing this to a white woman."

It wouldn't surprise me at all for them to do it to anyone.

Agreed. This whole incident was really precipitated by the cops behaving like thugs. Of course, that's how we like our cops to behave in this country, as we allow it to continue.
I meant to add it could be a 6-year-old Brownie Scout or a 92-year-old nun.

[Bill in NC]

No matter what the airline says, the video makes it clear he was not in any way physically resisting being dragged off the plane.

From what I've seen, it was not 'cops' or even TSA agents, but essentially security guards who dragged the guy off the plane.

If so, that will make it even more expensive for whomever is liable (the airline, and whomever hired the security guards, if not the airline)

Even down South here in my conservative state, I can't (legally) literally drag a trespasser off my residential or commercial property.

I have to call in a sworn officer and have them arrest the trespasser.

Though that only happens after the responding officer gives them (usually several) opportunities to leave voluntarily.

It appears that did NOT happen in this situation.

And absolutely no one at the airline or whomever employs those guards wants to go to court to argue they were justified in using the level of force that was applied.

Oh, but he's a "convicted felon."

So what?

He could be a convicted child molester and he would still make bank on whatever settlement his contingency-fee lawyer negotiates.

[Lemon Drop]

Bill in NC wrote:
No matter what the airline says, the video makes it clear he was not in any way physically resisting being dragged off the plane.

From what I've seen, it was not 'cops' or even TSA agents, but essentially security guards who dragged the guy off the plane.

If so, that will make it even more expensive for whomever is liable (the airline, and whomever hired the security guards, if not the airline)

Even down South here in my conservative state, I can't (legally) literally drag a trespasser off my residential or commercial property.

I have to call in a sworn officer and have them arrest the trespasser.

Though that only happens after the responding officer gives them (usually several) opportunities to leave voluntarily.

It appears that did NOT happen in this situation.

And absolutely no one at the airline or whomever employs those guards wants to go to court to argue they were justified in using the level of force that was applied.

Oh, but he's a "convicted felon."

So what?

He could be a convicted child molester and he would still make bank on whatever settlement his contingency-fee lawyer negotiates.

Agree with you except on one point, this was an "officer" on the payroll of an official agency. That doesn't make it any better for United but it does add another layer of accountability in terms of somebody else he can sue.

Embarrassing viral videos of a bloodied man being forcibly dragged off a United Airlines flight departing O’Hare Airport have resulted in a Chicago Department of Aviation security officer being placed on paid leave.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/video-a...ed-flight/

[mrbigstuff]

the uniforms these guys were wearing had "police" embroidered on the back.

Those people go through police academy and are given police powers in their jurisdiction, so, yes, one can use the term, "cop" in this instance.

[decay]

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

-- George Orwell

[$tevie]

Bill in NC wrote: Oh, but he's a "convicted felon."

So what?

He could be a convicted child molester and he would still make bank on whatever settlement his contingency-fee lawyer negotiates.

Exactly. It's not like security officers or police run priors and then treat the person as badly as their crimes seem to justify. That wouldn't be legal even if it was true.

[Bill in NC]

Not the guy who actually dragged him out of the seat.

(he's also the one who has the doctor's hands while dragging him down the aisle)

That guy has on jeans & what appears to be a purple shirt with a black jacket.

In the video there is nothing to identify him as a sworn officer - the back of his jacket does not have "Police" on it, nor is there a badge visible.

However, it's actually in the doctor's favor.

The city is used to paying large settlements.

Never hurts to have another deep-pocket defendant.

EDIT: tonight's news identifies them as security guards and reports they were told back in January to stop wearing jackets with "Police" on the back.

mrbigstuff wrote:
the uniforms these guys were wearing had "police" embroidered on the back.

Those people go through police academy and are given police powers in their jurisdiction, so, yes, one can use the term, "cop" in this instance.