This is why new gun control laws won't solve much

[RAMd®d]

As a responsible gun owner and user, though not so much over the last few years, I see room for some responsible gun legislation.

But better laws aren't any better if they're not enforced.

I agree with Racer about current gun laws not being enforced nearly enough.

One aspect of any law, and it's a big one, is deterrence.

Good laws have to be enforced to be of any value.

The 'use a gun' enhancement in CA is a joke.

I haven't followed it for a long time, but the presence of a gun, even of only brandished, once required a mandatory 10yr sentence.

I recall many instances of it not even being charged.

Mandatory.

Sure.

That said, I personally would oppose the banning of firearms, or the tacit banning that some countries do – you can own a gun, but can't possess it.

It has to remain in an accredited facility, usually a gun range.

But you get full visitation rights.

Well, during business hours, anyway.

[kj]

It would be nice if people would stop saying, "No one wants to ban all guns". I don't know why someone would say this. Well, I guess a new cousin would be "No one wants new laws". Well, that's not true.

[Z]

deckeda wrote:
[quote=S. Pupp]
… Instead, regulate ammunition.

The Gillette razor refill model LOL! Bullet Control!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw

Better still -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0

and part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9UFyNy-rw4

[Racer X]

I think if the "use a gun enhancement" becomes a shall enforce, instead of may enforce, will force the DAs and judges to step up and be VERY selective on plea bargains. Take the "use a gun enhancement" and remove it from being able to waive it.

Sure, you turn in your crew at the chop shop, we waive the carjacking charge, but no one can waive the firearms charge. Oh, you are already a convicted felon? That's now an extra charge of felon in possession. Can't waive that either. So you do 10 instead on 11.

Take the choice away from the DA and the judge.

I know for a fact if you get caught speeding in a school zone in Washington State, you can't get it reduced or dismissed. Period. Judges/magistrates do not have the authority to do that.

[RgrF]

Turning sentencing over to politicians rather than Judges has never been shown to work unless you're in the private prison business and looking to keep your cells full.

[vision63]

RAMd®d wrote:
As a responsible gun owner and user, though not so much over the last few years, I see room for some responsible gun legislation.

Not so much

[RgrF]

SDGuy wrote:
[quote=Steve G.]
...mmm...small and strokeable

That's why I enjoy this side of the forum so much - for the thoughtful, well-reasoned, keen, and insightful arguments I can read here...not like other forums where folks tend to just do one-liner drive-by posts.
Like this?

[Speedy]

RgrF wrote:
[quote=SDGuy]
[quote=Steve G.]
...mmm...small and strokeable

That's why I enjoy this side of the forum so much - for the thoughtful, well-reasoned, keen, and insightful arguments I can read here...not like other forums where folks tend to just do one-liner drive-by posts.
Like this?
I watched it at least a dozen times, laughing harder each time. I’m sure they were using blanks or the injured ammosexual would have probably dropped like a stone.