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The NYTimes year end editorial...
#1
...well put.


December 31, 2007
Editorial
Looking at America

There are too many moments these days when we cannot recognize our country. Sunday was one of them, as we read the account in The Times of how men in some of the most trusted posts in the nation plotted to cover up the torture of prisoners by Central Intelligence Agency interrogators by destroying videotapes of their sickening behavior. It was impossible to see the founding principles of the greatest democracy in the contempt these men and their bosses showed for the Constitution, the rule of law and human decency.

It was not the first time in recent years we’ve felt this horror, this sorrowful sense of estrangement, not nearly. This sort of lawless behavior has become standard practice since Sept. 11, 2001.

The country and much of the world was rightly and profoundly frightened by the single-minded hatred and ingenuity displayed by this new enemy. But there is no excuse for how President Bush and his advisers panicked — how they forgot that it is their responsibility to protect American lives and American ideals, that there really is no safety for Americans or their country when those ideals are sacrificed.

Out of panic and ideology, President Bush squandered America’s position of moral and political leadership, swept aside international institutions and treaties, sullied America’s global image, and trampled on the constitutional pillars that have supported our democracy through the most terrifying and challenging times. These policies have fed the world’s anger and alienation and have not made any of us safer.

In the years since 9/11, we have seen American soldiers abuse, sexually humiliate, torment and murder prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq. A few have been punished, but their leaders have never been called to account. We have seen mercenaries gun down Iraqi civilians with no fear of prosecution. We have seen the president, sworn to defend the Constitution, turn his powers on his own citizens, authorizing the intelligence agencies to spy on Americans, wiretapping phones and intercepting international e-mail messages without a warrant.

We have read accounts of how the government’s top lawyers huddled in secret after the attacks in New York and Washington and plotted ways to circumvent the Geneva Conventions — and both American and international law — to hold anyone the president chose indefinitely without charges or judicial review.

Those same lawyers then twisted other laws beyond recognition to allow Mr. Bush to turn intelligence agents into torturers, to force doctors to abdicate their professional oaths and responsibilities to prepare prisoners for abuse, and then to monitor the torment to make sure it didn’t go just a bit too far and actually kill them.

The White House used the fear of terrorism and the sense of national unity to ram laws through Congress that gave law-enforcement agencies far more power than they truly needed to respond to the threat — and at the same time fulfilled the imperial fantasies of Vice President Dick Cheney and others determined to use the tragedy of 9/11 to arrogate as much power as they could.

Hundreds of men, swept up on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq, were thrown into a prison in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, so that the White House could claim they were beyond the reach of American laws. Prisoners are held there with no hope of real justice, only the chance to face a kangaroo court where evidence and the names of their accusers are kept secret, and where they are not permitted to talk about the abuse they have suffered at the hands of American jailers.

In other foreign lands, the C.I.A. set up secret jails where “high-value detainees” were subjected to ever more barbaric acts, including simulated drowning. These crimes were videotaped, so that “experts” could watch them, and then the videotapes were destroyed, after consultation with the White House, in the hope that Americans would never know.

The C.I.A. contracted out its inhumanity to nations with no respect for life or law, sending prisoners — some of them innocents kidnapped on street corners and in airports — to be tortured into making false confessions, or until it was clear they had nothing to say and so were let go without any apology or hope of redress.

These are not the only shocking abuses of President Bush’s two terms in office, made in the name of fighting terrorism. There is much more — so much that the next president will have a full agenda simply discovering all the wrongs that have been done and then righting them.

We can only hope that this time, unlike 2004, American voters will have the wisdom to grant the awesome powers of the presidency to someone who has the integrity, principle and decency to use them honorably. Then when we look in the mirror as a nation, we will see, once again, the reflection of the United States of America.
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#2
And this is just the first page. It isn't what America wants to think of itself as.
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#3
>>It isn't what America wants to think of itself as.

We can think of ourselves however we want to!
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#4



maybe you mean sometime earlier like during the Vietnam era when "Out Gov't" was so "honest" or maybe even earlier.


3rd grade history books are fine if you like fairy tales.
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#5
Why is it that whenever the current administration is criticized, the response from the right is "Bill Clinton?" I don't think it's possible to come up with a weaker response.

Before the 2000 election, and to this day, I have never heard anybody say anything positive about Bush like, "he's honest" or "he is wise" or "he has good judgement." It's always, "but Bill Clinton..."
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#6
That sure as hell didn't come from 'the right' dude.
But if a scary closet monster is what you need , have at it.
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#7
Calling me "dude" doesn't make your post any less weak, bill. No scary closet monster needed either. Your posts on this side are consistently to the right, or conservative, or whatever you want to call it, which is fine, unless the best response to the editorial you can come up with is "Bill Clinton."
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#8
How many sperm lost their lives on that dress?

Those sperm could have been used to create viable embryos that could have been frozen and then destroyed!

The senseless loss of life that his administration perpetrated on the public!
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#9
The editorial is spot-on except they forgot to include themselves. I hold the NYT almost as responsible as Bushco for debasing America and all it stands for over the past eight years. How many times have they sat for months or YEARS on -- or not published -- or marginalized -- fact-based, TRUE stories wherein the facts (not opinions, FACTS) are critical of the administration and its policies? How many front-page, dubiously researched and sourced articles (endorsements of the big lie that was Iraqi WMD would be more accurate) did they publish? How many deaths and dollars has this cost us and the world? How enriched have Cheney, Rummy, et al become as a result of the Iraq war and other actions they've taken without regard to ethics, oversight, accountability or morality? How many passes have they handed out to 43?

The NYT editors are a bunch of stinking hypocrital shills. They should rot in the cauldron of blood, mangled flesh and excrement they helped to foment. If it were not so tragic, it would be comical.
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#10
Today's journalist: if it is not a press release, it is not fit to print....
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