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Violating (print) copyright law... your opinions, if you please.
#11
MacMagus;

OK.. why not...

The work in question is;
"Muzzle Flashes: Five Centuries of Firearms and Men" by Ellis Christian Lenz
Standard Publications, Inc, Huntington, WV, 1944 (first printing).

I saw ONE reference to a 1949 edition, but no other reference or copies with a 1949 date have turned up, so I'm assuming at this point that that may have been a red herring.
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#12
Just to be safe couldn't you credit the author and publisher and copy write information with the year published? Jump through a couple of hoops in the footnote explaining your efforts at finding the legal implication and simply going forward with apologies to all? ? ? ? ?

Big Grin
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#13
You couldn't find anything Googling for THAT author?!!

Ellis Christian Lenz?

http://64.233.187.99/search?q=Ellis%20Ch...%20Lenz%20&hl=en


King Buff. (Buffalo).
Author: Lenz, Ellis Christian.
Publisher: Saalfield, Akron OH, 1937, PAPERBOUND, (G+)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saalfield_Publishing
Contact: Kent University

Muzzle flashes;: Five centuries of firearms and men, (Hardcover)
Publisher: Standard Publishing Company, Huntington, WV, (1944), Herman P. Dean Proprietor.

(Contact the Huntington Museum of Art to find out how to contact the heirs of Herman P. Dean. http://www.hmoa.org/pages/aa-herman.html)

Amish ways and ours (Paperback)
Publisher: Authors Unlimited (Defunct)
Publisher: Publishers Group, Incorporated
Pub. Date: June 1987
ISBN-13: 9781556660108
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1556660103

Publishers Group seems to have been subsumed by its daughter corp., Publishers Group West. http://www.pgw.com/home/
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#14
WHiiP beat me to it. I think you guys are way overthinking this. Just treat it as a regular citation like in a university dissertation and move on. It's not that big of a deal.

The record & movie companies now have us all on edge about really trivial stuff.
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#15
Just show a few muzzle flashes when someone knocks on your door regarding use of the chapter. If they've read any of the books, they'll know there is lead flying about during the flash--- lead that is best kept out of one's arse.
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#16
[quote MacMagus]Three suggestions:

1. Check the Copyright Office database to see what else the author and publisher have registered and at what addresses.

http://www.copyright.gov/records/

Unfortunately, the online records only go back to 1978. To search beyond that you'd need to be/know someone who has access to the Library of Congress where searches may be done in person (almost anyone can get a library card for the Library of Congress) or you could pay a fee to have a staff-member search their catalog for you.

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From the link I provided, there is the information that the Copyright Office published these records in the Catalog of Copyright Entries before 1978 in printed form. From 1978 to 1982 it was issued as microfiche. A number of libraries around the country have copies of it. That publication would have the original copyright listed, and also if done the renewal.

Pretty certain any library that is listed as a Federal Documents Depository will have copies, and a quick online catalog search in my area of the country shows it available at others I know do not have that status. So you should be able to find it available closer than the Library of Congress.
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#17
You gotta love Google. This very discussion is now the fourth result when you Google Lenz.
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#18
This is why many people want updates to copyright law to allow these "orphan" items to be used w/o too much trouble.
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