Glendora woman plunges 1,000 feet to death in Utah's Zion National Park

[3d]

You would think that one gets to a point in life where the safety and well being of a mother and her own three children are put above such things as conquering nature, challenge, and accomplishment when there is such a high risk of death and severe injury.

[davester]

3d wrote:
You would think that one gets to a point in life where the safety and well being of a mother and her own three children are put above such things as conquering nature, challenge, and accomplishment when there is such a high risk of death and severe injury.

There's almost certainly a much greater risk of being killed in a car crash or a pedestrian crosswalk on the way to Zion than there is stumbling and falling off a cliff. I do risk assessment as part of my profession and commonly find that people for the most part are very confused regarding the relative risks of different activities. They take extreme precautions against remote risks and take no precautions against significant ones.

[RAMd®d]

12 posts, 128 views, and not one mention of a Darwin Award yet?

Damnit, you're right. I retract the nomination.

Well, aren't you the milk of human kindness. When your loved one pass, maybe you'll reap similar consolation.

The woman was walking along a trail, stumbled, and fell. We have no reason to believe that her prior behavior was any different than any of the other people taking the same hike. She just had some bad luck. Nothing in the article tells me that she was running backwards, walking on her hands, or taking any other foolhardy risks. She tripped and fell.


You would think that one gets to a point in life where the safety and well being of a mother and her own three children are put above such things as conquering nature, challenge, and accomplishment when there is such a high risk of death and severe injury.

Have you, as pRICE has a dozen times or so, made that hike? How many people a year travel that path? Tens? Hundreds? Thousands? How many are killed? More people are killed in Oakland CA then on that trail. (Sorry, vision.) This is not wing walking or mountaineering, it's taking a hike.

From what I've seen, people take a certain amount of pleasure in making or reading "Darwin nominations" and assigning blame, striving to demonstrate some kind of superiority over others who are somehow seen as deserving of their fate. The "Good Riddance" mentality.

I don't see how any rational person could conclude that this woman deserved her fate, based on what's been presented, that is is anything less than tragic. The children were not infants and were on the hike with her. Was she supposed to stay home, watch the Nature Channel, then wash the dishes and mop the floor?

It was a tragic event and nothing the unsympathetic have said makes it any less so.


There's almost certainly a much greater risk of being killed in a car crash or a pedestrian crosswalk on the way to Zion than there is stumbling and falling off a cliff. I do risk assessment as part of my profession and commonly find that people for the most part are very confused regarding the relative risks of different activities. They take extreme precautions against remote risks and take no precautions against significant ones.

Exactly.

[OWC Jamie]

3d wrote:
You would think that one gets to a point in life where the safety and well being of a mother and her own three children are put above such things as conquering nature, challenge, and accomplishment when there is such a high risk of death and severe injury.

You could die of pneumonia lying in bed fearful of living, too.

you never get to see how deep the rabbit hole goes if you take the blue pill

[3d]

davester wrote:
There's almost certainly a much greater risk of being killed in a car crash or a pedestrian crosswalk on the way to Zion than there is stumbling and falling off a cliff. I do risk assessment as part of my profession and commonly find that people for the most part are very confused regarding the relative risks of different activities. They take extreme precautions against remote risks and take no precautions against significant ones.

If a person slips on the sidewalk or crosswalk they get a bruise tailbone. If a person slips on 1000 foot cliff. They're dead.

ANY activity where one slip and you're dead is to much of a risk for a mother of three children to take.

[3d]

RAMd®d, get off your soapbox of high morality and quit yer preachin'. Relax and take a hike!

[pinkoos]

My wife just sent me a link to a video (on Facebook) of her brother's former roommate doing a bungy jump from this:

http://www.faceadrenalin.com/bloukransbridge.html

I'm not sure if the image gallery:

http://www.faceadrenalin.com/gallery.html

or the 360 degree view:

http://www.fullhouse.co.za/gallery/ipix/.../index.htm

does it justice.

Try googling for a video.

Now, that is nut case crazy!!!

[RAMd®d]

Relax and take a hike!

Right behind you. Maybe you'll get some humanity.

Since when did calling a spade a spade become preaching? I'd rather have "high morality" whatever that is, than next to none, 3d.

Apparently it's easy to be a jerk when it doesn't concern *your* loved ones.

[N-OS X-tasy!]

davester wrote: I do risk assessment as part of my profession and commonly find that people for the most part are very confused regarding the relative risks of different activities. They take extreme precautions against remote risks and take no precautions against significant ones.

I read an interesting article about this very topic earlier this year in either Wired or Esquire, I forget which.

[maco]

davester wrote:
There's almost certainly a much greater risk of being killed in a car crash or a pedestrian crosswalk on the way to Zion than there is stumbling and falling off a cliff. I do risk assessment as part of my profession and commonly find that people for the most part are very confused regarding the relative risks of different activities. They take extreme precautions against remote risks and take no precautions against significant ones.

So what is your risk assessment of this group?