Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event

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Latest as of 12:01 p.m. Pacific

- Giffords alive, in critical condition, in surgery.
- 4 dead.
- Gunman in custody.

Press conference in about half an hour.

[Grace62]

"Get on Target for Victory in November Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly"

Her Republican opponent, Jesse Kelly, held this kind of strange political rally last June. No idea what motivated this shooter, but the rhetoric hasn't been pretty.

[john dough]

http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/08/giffor...-giffords/

This is just sick.

[$tevie]

Oh, that link says a child is one of the dead. All the deaths are tragic, of course, but somehow the fact that the shooter hit children is even more so.

EDIT: the child was a victim and not killed, I believe I read it wrong. This is all so upsetting and I'm reading everything too fast.

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$tevie wrote:
Oh, that link says a child is one of the dead. All the deaths are tragic, of course, but somehow the fact that the shooter hit children is even more so.

EDIT: the child was a victim and not killed, I believe I read it wrong. This is all so upsetting and I'm reading everything too fast.

Carondelet Medical Center spokeswoman describes the four killed as "two men and two women".

[Black]

seeing.the.unseeable wrote:
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Tragic. It can happen anywhere, at any time.

> Who among us didn't know, or at least suspect, that this day was coming?

WTF does THAT mean? This isn't the first time someone has been shot and killed in this country. And no, I'm not reading between the lines, it's a line you wrote.

though it is likely that the current political climate and discourse contributed to this event, let's reserve final judgement until we have more information.

If it ends up beign the case, let's hope that both sides can take a look in the mirror..
"WTF does THAT mean"?

Please re-read my comment before responding so predictably.

Did I point fingers?

No, not at either "side" as we team sports-minded Americans seem to habitually categorize everything.

Did I judge anyone?

No, I said "we" - not you, not me. Us.

And no, it's not "the first time someone has been shot and killed in this country."

That was my point; that's what's tragic. We accept this; we don't demand any change.

"Let's reserve final judgement until we have more information."

My point was hardly to assign specific responsibility.

If, on the other hand, we want to pretend that we've each done our part to offset this kind of anger and hatred - from either side - then, by all means, kill the messenger.
Go away.

[Dennis S]

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Must be an absolute nightmare at the hospital, regardless of how well prepared they thought they were…

[john dough]

Seeing.the.unseeable: what the hell is wrong with you?

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One isolated report of a possible second assailant from KNST radio in Tucson.