Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event

[davester]

Seacrest wrote:
[quote=davester]
Kelly and Palin have their right to freedom of speech. However I think what needs to happen is that americans need wake up and reject as unsuitable for public office (or leadership roles of any kind)

FWIW, both of them were rejected; they lost their respective elections.
Hardly a rejection. Kelly lost by a slim margin and Palin lost probably because of her running mate...both enjoy widespread support for their looney agendas.

[Black]

Uncle Wig wrote:
Sorry Black, you are wrong. I was there (that is, in this thread - and in the town where this tragedy occurred). What seeing.the.unseeable posted WAS right on the money.

Can you tell me where I said it wasn't? If I deem that the moment is wrong to express agreement, does that automatically mean I disagree?
If you saw someone walk out in the street hit by a car, would your first order of business be to run up and rant about pedestrian safety, or would you want to make sure they were OK first?

[Black]

Seacrest wrote:
[quote=davester]
Kelly and Palin have their right to freedom of speech. However I think what needs to happen is that americans need wake up and reject as unsuitable for public office (or leadership roles of any kind)

FWIW, both of them were rejected; they lost their respective elections.
Good point. So, with all these vague suggestions that something should have been done or should be done to prevent this type of tragedy-- what course of action are people actually suggesting? Let's hear some solutions.

[Mac1337]

Black wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
It is sick. Advise is pouring in how Obama should use this tragedy to resurrect his presidency a la Clinton and Bush. Clinton (or his advisers) did bemoan that he was cheated out of presiding over 9/11.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08...06285.html

And it will be expected that the white house issue a statement.
And regardless of how that statement is worded, with soul-numbing predictability, people like you will try to twist it to look like he's using the tragedy to political ends.
I am not saying it. Howard Fineman is. But he is hoping in vain. I saw Obama delivering his statement. He could have been reading the weather report. There is not gonna be a bullhorn moment.

[$tevie]

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[Dennis S]

Black wrote:
[quote=Seacrest]
[quote=davester]
Kelly and Palin have their right to freedom of speech. However I think what needs to happen is that americans need wake up and reject as unsuitable for public office (or leadership roles of any kind)

FWIW, both of them were rejected; they lost their respective elections.
Good point. So, with all these vague suggestions that something should have been done or should be done to prevent this type of tragedy-- what course of action are people actually suggesting? Let's hear some solutions.
The "solution" will be virtually no in-person contact with our representatives. This shooting today, along with the Tea Party nuts at political meetings this summer, will put an end to it.

[Kiva]

to seeing.the.unseable..

the only thing you wrote that I saw as difficult to interpret was "Who among us didn't know, or at least suspect, that this day was coming?"...in a political forum, that can easily be seen many different ways. Thanks for posting a clarification.

As for the subsequent topic, I do hope this results in a long conversation about the nature of political discourse in this country. however, I have read through a lot of what this guy wrote on the web, and he is almost certainly mentally ill. Either BiPolar or Schizophrenic, is my guess. I've read similar writings before.

it also sounds like he was associated with anarchists, possibly? Aren't they, technically, extreme left? however, as we all know, extreme left and right are so far out there they reach around on the other side and shake hands..

So, this mentally ill man likely would have acted at some point regardless. However, I hope we all look at how he may have been encouraged and/or reinforced to do so and whether or not anything can be done to address it.

kiva

[Black]

Dakota wrote:
[quote=Black]
[quote=Dakota]
It is sick. Advise is pouring in how Obama should use this tragedy to resurrect his presidency a la Clinton and Bush. Clinton (or his advisers) did bemoan that he was cheated out of presiding over 9/11.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08...06285.html

And it will be expected that the white house issue a statement.
And regardless of how that statement is worded, with soul-numbing predictability, people like you will try to twist it to look like he's using the tragedy to political ends.
I am not saying it. Howard Fineman is. But he is hoping in vain. I saw Obama delivering his statement. He could have been reading the weather report. There is not gonna be a bullhorn moment.
You seem to be loving this.

[Mac1337]

The contrast with the Ft. Hood incident is instructive. Ft. Hood coverage was dropped like a hot potato in a few days and the first words coming out of the mouth of officials were not to condemns Hasan but to caution people against prejudice and "bigotry". God forbid someone gets offended. Have you heard similar cautions this time?

[Speedy]

Yes, pretty much what she had in mind. Palin was more subtle. But not much. I expect his radio presets will show him to be a Rush Limpbaugh, Sean Inanity, Michael Savage nine hour a day listener.

Spock wrote:
Would that Tea Party favorite, Sharon Angle, call this a "Second Amendment Remedy?"