Ron Paul and the TEA Party ?

[cbelt3]

Watching Mr. Paul's proclamations pass through the media, I get the feeling that he and the TEA party are very close in their political philosophies.. well, reasonably, when you compare Paul's brand of conservative libertarianism to what I would call the TEA Party's 'neo-libertarian / confusion platform.

His apparent enthusiasm for killing every single governmental program and/or institution and replacing them with what appears to be a 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' approach is rather stunning.

Bootstrapping is all well and good if you're truly self-reliant, but the populace of this country needs to be weaned off the tax dollar teat in an organized fashion to avoid massive unrest and an 'American Spring'.

[DaveS]

I don't want to hijack this thread but your observation of ... "His apparent enthusiasm for killing every single governmental program and/or institution and replacing them with what appears to be a 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' approach is rather stunning." lead me to throw out this for cross consideration ... (bold emphasis is mine)

WaPo Finds Blacks Demanding Racial (Racist?) Unity Behind Obama

By Tim Graham | October 18, 2011 | 08:45

The front page of The Washington Post carried a story Tuesday on black liberals demanding all blacks stand with President Obama -- just because he's black. Krissah Thompson's story carried some noteworthy "get in line" quotes from the forget-the-black-unemployment-numbers crowd, but the closest thing to a moderate or conservative in the article is a man suggesting Obama is not God.

On the front page, Thompson quoted from radio host Tom Joyner on his BlackAmericaWeb.com blog. “Let’s not even deal with the facts right now. Let’s deal with just our blackness and pride — and loyalty. We have the chance to re-elect the first African-American president, and that’s what we ought to be doing. And I’m not afraid or ashamed to say that as black people, we should do it because he’s a black man.”

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/people/krissah-th...z1bi7Uk8Rr

[Pam]

DaveS wrote:
I don't want to hijack this thread but your observation of ... "His apparent enthusiasm for killing every single governmental program and/or institution and replacing them with what appears to be a 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' approach is rather stunning." lead me to throw out this for cross consideration ... (bold emphasis is mine)

WaPo Finds Blacks Demanding Racial (Racist?) Unity Behind Obama

By Tim Graham | October 18, 2011 | 08:45

The front page of The Washington Post carried a story Tuesday on black liberals demanding all blacks stand with President Obama -- just because he's black. Krissah Thompson's story carried some noteworthy "get in line" quotes from the forget-the-black-unemployment-numbers crowd, but the closest thing to a moderate or conservative in the article is a man suggesting Obama is not God.

On the front page, Thompson quoted from radio host Tom Joyner on his BlackAmericaWeb.com blog. “Let’s not even deal with the facts right now. Let’s deal with just our blackness and pride — and loyalty. We have the chance to re-elect the first African-American president, and that’s what we ought to be doing. And I’m not afraid or ashamed to say that as black people, we should do it because he’s a black man.”

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/people/krissah-th...z1bi7Uk8Rr

Why not? People voted for Bush because they'd rather have a beer at a bbq with him over Gore/Kerry.

[cbelt3]

DaveS... and yet, Mr. Cain is the deal breaker on that theory. Perhaps deliberately on the part of the Republican Party.

[DaveS]

Pam wrote:
Why not? People voted for Bush because they'd rather have a beer at a bbq with him over Gore/Kerry.

And exactly what was your estimation of the intelligence of these folks?

[cbelt3]

DaveS wrote:
[quote=Pam]
Why not? People voted for Bush because they'd rather have a beer at a bbq with him over Gore/Kerry.

And exactly what was your estimation of the intelligence of these folks?
Oog, let's not start the "American Voters is SOOOO Stupid" thing again. Work to educate, not denigrate.

[$tevie]

I love the way Newsbusters quotes the Post but does not supply a link. Here it is:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/c...story.html

And I love the way the Post took Joyner's remark out of context and made it sound worse than it was. The "Let's not even deal with the facts right now" isn't as dumb as the Post made it sound:

How many more black people will stay home from the polls this November because they think the prez is turning his back on black people?

Forget that that’s a lie - that he has done plenty for African-Americans and will do more if he gets the chance to serve another term. Forget that bin Laden was captured and killed under his watch. Let’s not even deal with the facts right now. Let’s deal with just our blackness and pride - and loyalty. We have the chance to re-elect the first African-American president, and that’s what we ought to be doing. And I’m not afraid or ashamed to say that as black people, we should do it because he’s a black man. There are a great number of people who are against him because he’s a black man. That should be enough motivation for us to band together and get it done.

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=blog_i...02/1573138

And I love the way that people freak out when Black people discuss uniting to use their collective vote to wield some clout. It's not wrong when the Tea Party does it, it's not wrong when the Evangelicals do it, it's not wrong when anti-abortionists do it. Voting blocs are only wrong when those uppity Black people do it.

[Pam]

DaveS wrote:
[quote=Pam]
Why not? People voted for Bush because they'd rather have a beer at a bbq with him over Gore/Kerry.

And exactly what was your estimation of the intelligence of these folks?
It doesn't matter. Didn't for Bush, won't matter for Obama.

[cbelt3]

man, this thread DID get totally jacked. Next thing you know we're going to find it back behind the high school up on blocks with graffiti sprayed all over the body. :biggrin:

[Acer]

Obama is far from the Liberal Savior, but if you are left-leaning, who else are you going to vote for? Just because Obama didn't get everything you expected, are you going to sit on your hands and throw the election to the other side? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

And I was going to say something about Ron Paul, too, but meh, he's not going to get anywhere anyway.