Rick Santorum: "it's not all about preventing abortion you know, it's about sex too."

[Grace62]

That is how Santorum replied when presented with the evidence that pro-choice, pro-birth control policies reduce abortions and strengthen families.

http://www.birthcontrolwatch.org/blog/2007/06/rail.html

Christina Page's amazing 2007 interview with Rick Santorum on the subject of birth control.

[cbelt3]

[$tevie]

I've maintained all along that the whole abortion/birth control thing is about trying to prevent non-reproductive sex. It's mostly people who find sex dirty and repugnant that are into this sort of legislation. OR the ones who want you to go to Hell if you have non-reproductive sex, and they're not so well-balanced either.

[rjmacs]

$tevie wrote:
I've maintained all along that the whole abortion/birth control thing is about trying to prevent non-reproductive sex. It's mostly people who find sex dirty and repugnant that are into this sort of legislation. OR the ones who want you to go to Hell if you have non-reproductive sex, and they're not so well-balanced either.

Well, that's certainly been the Catholic rationale all along. The Church has long been very invested in who is allowed to have sex with whom, and when, and how, and why.

[robfilms]

rjmacs wrote:
Well, that's certainly been the Catholic rationale all along. The Church has long been very invested in who is allowed to have sex with whom, and when, and how, and why.

rjmacs-

talk about "big brother" investing themselves in the business of the people!

be well

rob

[$tevie]

rjmacs wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
I've maintained all along that the whole abortion/birth control thing is about trying to prevent non-reproductive sex. It's mostly people who find sex dirty and repugnant that are into this sort of legislation. OR the ones who want you to go to Hell if you have non-reproductive sex, and they're not so well-balanced either.

Well, that's certainly been the Catholic rationale all along. The Church has long been very invested in who is allowed to have sex with whom, and when, and how, and why. And for all sorts of non-religious reasons, that's what's so crazy about it. Almost all of their crazy no-sex rules come from back in the Middle Ages when men wanted to be sure their kids were really theirs.

[Grace62]

It's about men controlling women. The followers aren't following, so they'll try and get the government to force them to.

This is the church that still doesn't allow women to lead, after all.

If you are a woman and you accept church teaching that it's a sin to have sex with someone unless you are wedded to them (by the church,) or to try and prevent yourself from becoming pregnant other than by not having sex, then your life is not your own.

[rjmacs]

Grace62 wrote:
It's about men controlling women. The followers aren't following, so they'll try and get the government to force them to.

This is the church that still doesn't allow women to lead, after all.

If you are a woman and you accept church teaching that it's a sin to have sex with someone unless you are wedded to them (by the church,) or to try and prevent yourself from becoming pregnant other than by not having sex, then your life is not your own.

I won't make any pretense that the consequences fall equally on the sexes, but it's about Churchmen controlling everyone, male and female alike. This Church would object strenuously to birth control measures administered to men as well. Controlling sex means controlling life - both procreatively and recreatively - and that means insinuating tentacles of manipulation into every level of social reality. It affects women more negatively than men, but the aim is broader than just women.

[August West]

insinuating tentacles of manipulation into every level of social reality.

Thanks for the new bullet point in my "Things wrong with Religion" chart.

[DaviDC.]

"Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate."

Or at least those to claim to speak for him.