Can you get an Epi-Pen FOR someone who's stubborn and stupid?

[Speedy]

A number of years ago there was a Time Magazine health writer that advocated that kids who have a peanut allergy carry a pen to school so other kids could have There PBJ sandwiches. Some people are clearly clueless.

[Dennis S]

If you go the benadryl route, I have it compounded 10 mg per ml because I am allergic to some of the unnecessary dyes and stuff they put in the liquid and pills. I haven't figured out how much stronger it is; I have just learned how much to take after 15 years of bad allergies. It's handy to carry some in a small vial when traveling or in restaurants. I gave some to my niece and it saved her a trip to the ER the next day when she had a reaction to snap peas. I like it because if I get a couple of hives and that's all, I just take a tiny sip and that takes care of them without making me sleepy.

[Paul F.]

Problem is, he's NOT going to consult anyone... he's going to keep eating peanuts until something big enough to get his attention happens. And then, like when he was developing the crab allergy, he's going to try it again - just to prove to himself that it's really a repeatable phenomena...

That's why I want to get something my mom can have handy, so hopefully his "wake up call" is enough to get his attention, but mild enough to be dealt with.

[Speedy]

Seems as though he is trying to prove he can out-tough the reaction. Big mistake.

Paul F. wrote:
Problem is, he's NOT going to consult anyone... he's going to keep eating peanuts until something big enough to get his attention happens. And then, like when he was developing the crab allergy, he's going to try it again - just to prove to himself that it's really a repeatable phenomena...

That's why I want to get something my mom can have handy, so hopefully his "wake up call" is enough to get his attention, but mild enough to be dealt with.

[Paul F.]

Speedy wrote:
A number of years ago there was a Time Magazine health writer that advocated that kids who have a peanut allergy carry a pen to school so other kids could have There PBJ sandwiches. Some people are clearly clueless.

By your reasoning, why don't we just outlaw peanuts altogether?
If your kid has a life threatening allergy and you DON'T send an epi-pen to school with them, I think YOU are the clueless one.

The school I work for keeps a couple of 'em in the office... and the fact that we're 200 yards from a hospital is handy (thought fortunately, we've never needed it since I've worked here...)

[Paul F.]

Speedy wrote:
Seems as though he is trying to prove he can out-tough the reaction. Big mistake.

He's 74 and stubborn... and has ALWAYS been skeptical of "developing" allergies....
So yeah, he's going to push it as far as he can since he likes peanut butter a lot.

[Speedy]

Certainly the kids should carry an epi pen. But they shouldn't have to use it every time some kid wants to eat a PBJ. Many, many schools are peanut-free zones.

Good luck with your father.

Paul F. wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
A number of years ago there was a Time Magazine health writer that advocated that kids who have a peanut allergy carry a pen to school so other kids could have There PBJ sandwiches. Some people are clearly clueless.

By your reasoning, why don't we just outlaw peanuts altogether?
If your kid has a life threatening allergy and you DON'T send an epi-pen to school with them, I think YOU are the clueless one.

The school I work for keeps a couple of 'em in the office... and the fact that we're 200 yards from a hospital is handy (thought fortunately, we've never needed it since I've worked here...)

[Markintosh]

I have been developing more allergies of late - the kind that stop me from breathing and give me hives outside and inside of my body. My list includes many but peanuts and almonds are with the last two years. Squash family & bananas have been there about 5 years. Watermelon just started causing problems recently.

So i think you should set up your father with a subscription to soy not butter through Amazon. Will he eat it if six packs start showing up at his door?

http://www.amazon.com/I-M-Healthy-Origin..._1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345164008&sr=8-1&keywords=soynut+butter

[Robert M]

Tenders,

Absolutely not true. People can develop an allergy to something at any age at any time. I enjoy an apple occasionally. Two years ago eating an apple put me into anaphylactic shock. This literally blindsided me. I was 39 years old when this took place and been eating apples my entire life without any problems whatsoever. I'd even eaten peeled apples a couple of months before the incident took place.

I've always had seasonal allergies and such but never an issue with apples until that time. So, I didn't make the connection. Blood testing - not skin testing - confirmed the allergy. That and it's so severe that the allergist will not do skin tests as a followup. It's too dangerous.

In my case, it's also not a direct allergy to apple. It's a cross-allergy with birch pollen and a form of oral allergy syndrome. As a result, I cannot under any circumstances eat apple. It's possible I can eat peeled and/or cooked apple but, the allergy is so severe that I've been warned not to chance it. My life would be at risk.

To Paul,

The issue here is SOM syndrome aka Stubborn Old Man disease. That and stupidity. Neither is treatable under normal circumstances. Sometimes extreme and unpleasant action is required to resolve it. Consider making an appointment with an allergist and literally taking your dad to him/her. Call his primary doctor, explain the situation and see if he/she can help you convince your dad to get proper treatment.

And be stubborn and persistent about this, too. Your father has been lucky right now. However, that luck can change with a single peanut and he may not live to tell about it. I'm hoping you can get him proper treatment before he eats one peanut too many.

Robert

[Numo]

How does someone throat is rapidly closing up swallow pills?