it gets worse?!....new revelation from Ronan Farrow's book reveal Matt Lauer rape....

[Bill in NC]

Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=Bill in NC]
Nothing more...in a legal sense...is going to happen to Lauer.

He'll just have to console himself with his remaining $60 million (that's after his divorce settlement)

That's what Harvey Weinstein (who has a lot more money) thought. He's out of on bail awaiting a January criminal trial on five sex crimes, one dates back to 2006.
Did any of Weinstein's accusers admit to multiple consensual encounters, even if only quid pro quo as Nevils alleges?

[Lemon Drop]

Bill in NC wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
[quote=Bill in NC]
Nothing more...in a legal sense...is going to happen to Lauer.

He'll just have to console himself with his remaining $60 million (that's after his divorce settlement)

That's what Harvey Weinstein (who has a lot more money) thought. He's out of on bail awaiting a January criminal trial on five sex crimes, one dates back to 2006.
Did any of Weinstein's accusers admit to multiple consensual encounters, even if only quid pro quo as Nevils alleges?
The existence of consensual encounters doesn't mean rape could not have happened in a separate encounter.

[August West]

Bill in NC wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
[quote=Bill in NC]
Nothing more...in a legal sense...is going to happen to Lauer.

He'll just have to console himself with his remaining $60 million (that's after his divorce settlement)

That's what Harvey Weinstein (who has a lot more money) thought. He's out of on bail awaiting a January criminal trial on five sex crimes, one dates back to 2006.
Did any of Weinstein's accusers admit to multiple consensual encounters, even if only quid pro quo as Nevils alleges?
I'm a little unclear on your question, Bill. Are you implying that if a woman has had consensual sex with an individual, the individual cannot commit an act of rape against the woman in the future? That the woman's "No" actually forever more becomes "Yes?"

[RgrF]

The story said they resumed or initiated a consensual relationship after the rape. It also mention her describing her encounters with him as purely "transactional".

[rjmacs]

RgrF wrote:
The story said they resumed or initiated a consensual relationship after the rape. It also mention her describing her encounters with him as purely "transactional".

Okay. I think the question is, "so what?" It has no bearing on her having been raped.

[MrNoBody]

.....it looks like NBC hid it.....until she got a lawyer....

ahhh NBC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Comcast Corporation!
The more you know - NBC slogan :terror:

Of course they hid it, all big media companies hide information they do not want
the public to know about. Financial deals, employee backgrounds, political ties,
paid 'consultants', off-shore operations, etc.

[rz]

August West wrote:
Are you implying that if a woman has had consensual sex with an individual, the individual cannot commit an act of rape against the woman in the future?

But the problem is, it happened the other way around. I am not saying I doubt her account of what happened. What has me puzzled is why, after having been allegedly been raped by Lauer, did she enter a consensual relationship with him? To me, that defies logic.

[NewtonMP2100]

.....indeed....probably low self-esteem.....

[macphanatic]

rz wrote:
[quote=August West]
Are you implying that if a woman has had consensual sex with an individual, the individual cannot commit an act of rape against the woman in the future?

But the problem is, it happened the other way around. I am not saying I doubt her account of what happened. What has me puzzled is why, after having been allegedly been raped by Lauer, did she enter a consensual relationship with him? To me, that defies logic.
Exactly.

NewtonMP2100 wrote:
.....indeed....probably low self-esteem.....

Or was she using Lauer to advance her career?

I am in no way defending Lauer or his behavior. I just don't understand how someone who has been victimized continues to have a relationship with their attacker.

[NewtonMP2100]

.....in general, for most abuse victims....it is low self-esteem....who knows in this case.....she eventually left NBC in 2018 with a seven figure payout so could money be her motivation....???

....Lauer says it is but we will never really know.....