David Brooks' take on the transition...

[Black Landlord]

swampy wrote:
"Why wouldn't he want to hire people who are experienced and talented"

Uh, maybe he knows that drawing from his circle of friends and associates would not get him off to an exemplary start with "the folks"?

Except for pages and gofers nobody has ever worked for Obama because he's never had a job where he had to hire leaders and managers.?

You apparently have very little insight into the structure of a senator's office.

[Black Landlord]

kj wrote:
>>>kj, this is an internet forum; one can step away from the keyboard at any time.

Which is exactly why no one needs to get ugly with swampy, sam, or even pete. If you don't want a meltdown, don't beg for one. If you don't like their "tactics", don't respond. I get sick of all the "free-thinkers" around here trying to badger people off the forum. Pete was wrong for losing his cool. But it's not right to instigate things either. Both are wrong, I don't care which is more wrong. Pete spent way too much time justifying his positions to be just a troll. There are way more efficient ways to troll. Plus, if he's guilty of trolling, everyone else who responded is just as guilty of feeding the troll. I don't know which is dumberer (to borrow one from pete). The only reason people bring up pete is to try to rally the troops. If "pete's" here, we must expel him quickly. Give it a rest. I really think you guys can handle some disagreement. kj.

kj, I mostly agree with you, although I wish you would stop making statements that sound like there's a big group conspiracy of some sort (in the above example "I get sick of all the "free-thinkers" around here trying to badger people off the forum").

[swampy]

BL... didn't I mention pages and gofers? Okay I'll give you a couple secretaries. Geeezz.. picky, picky.

[Black Landlord]

Black Landlord wrote:
[quote=kj]
>>>kj, this is an internet forum; one can step away from the keyboard at any time.

Which is exactly why no one needs to get ugly with swampy, sam, or even pete. If you don't want a meltdown, don't beg for one. If you don't like their "tactics", don't respond. I get sick of all the "free-thinkers" around here trying to badger people off the forum. Pete was wrong for losing his cool. But it's not right to instigate things either. Both are wrong, I don't care which is more wrong. Pete spent way too much time justifying his positions to be just a troll. There are way more efficient ways to troll. Plus, if he's guilty of trolling, everyone else who responded is just as guilty of feeding the troll. I don't know which is dumberer (to borrow one from pete). The only reason people bring up pete is to try to rally the troops. If "pete's" here, we must expel him quickly. Give it a rest. I really think you guys can handle some disagreement. kj.

kj, I mostly agree with you, although I wish you would stop making statements that sound like there's a big group conspiracy of some sort (in the above example "I get sick of all the "free-thinkers" around here trying to badger people off the forum").
Ugh. The winking smiley was -not- intended.

[Black Landlord]

swampy wrote:
BL... didn't I mention pages and gofers? Okay I'll give you a couple secretaries. Geeezz.. picky, picky.

Until 6 days ago I was Obama's constituent and I've dealt with his staff several times.

So, come clean-- do you think Obama is of inferior intelligence?
Something about your attitude reminds me of the scene in Planet of the Apes in which the simian scientists declare a talking human impossible.

[davester]

I think you could have left off "into the structure of a senator's office".

[swampy]

BL...I guess I need to hold up a sign for you when I'm being sarcastic. Will /s do?

[kj]

Black Landlord wrote:
[quote=kj]
>>>kj, this is an internet forum; one can step away from the keyboard at any time.

Which is exactly why no one needs to get ugly with swampy, sam, or even pete. If you don't want a meltdown, don't beg for one. If you don't like their "tactics", don't respond. I get sick of all the "free-thinkers" around here trying to badger people off the forum. Pete was wrong for losing his cool. But it's not right to instigate things either. Both are wrong, I don't care which is more wrong. Pete spent way too much time justifying his positions to be just a troll. There are way more efficient ways to troll. Plus, if he's guilty of trolling, everyone else who responded is just as guilty of feeding the troll. I don't know which is dumberer (to borrow one from pete). The only reason people bring up pete is to try to rally the troops. If "pete's" here, we must expel him quickly. Give it a rest. I really think you guys can handle some disagreement. kj.

kj, I mostly agree with you, although I wish you would stop making statements that sound like there's a big group conspiracy of some sort (in the above example "I get sick of all the "free-thinkers" around here trying to badger people off the forum").
I don't feel like I'm implying there's a conspiracy. But I guess it's not very nice, so I'll try not to. kj.

[Stizzealth]

I've considered a career in comedy. After all, pretty much anybody could be funnier than Al Franken.

[GGD]

swampy wrote:
"Why wouldn't he want to hire people who are experienced and talented"

Uh, maybe he knows that drawing from his circle of friends and associates would not get him off to an exemplary start with "the folks"?

Except for pages and gofers nobody has ever worked for Obama because he's never had a job where he had to hire leaders and managers.?

Didn't he hire leaders and managers for his campaign that successfully got him nominated and elected President? Or were those just pages and gofers? Either way they seemed to be experienced and talented.