This is for Jimmypoo in light of Tony Curtis passing.

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I also have not followed any information about Columbine.
I just have no desire to learn more details of such atrocities.
I would not even know this tidbit had it not been for wikipedia just now as I determined to look up WHO she was. I still know no details about any of Manson's stuff.
So, no, not in a cave, but violent acts such as this I despise.