01-13-2011, 10:01 AM
Greg wrote:
[quote=kj]
I have a hard time accepting it, because it isn't always true. Are you saying anyone who doesn't succeed, didn't _really_ want to succeed? If so, that just isn't the way things are.
Do try to not be condescending when discussing suicide with me. I'd appreciate it.
You mentioned Jesus, and you mentioned guilt. I've had enough of pseudo-helpful and handwringing crap (e.g., 'if only somebody had done something!') thrown in my face to know it's irrelevant and inappropriate.
Talk psychology, talk medications, talk DSM, talk sense. But nobody (you or anyone) may tell me about how it's possible to prevent someone who actually wants to kill him or herself from doing so.
And if you want to dance when discussing such a serious topic by pointing out that I must not be right because sometimes suicide attempts fail, then knock yourself out.
People who want to kill themselves do.
I didn't say any of what you pretend I did. At any rate, most everyone has had tragedy in their lives. That you've had your share gives you no right at all to proclaim all suicidal people hopeless. The fact you do is incredibly offensive to me. Take care. kj.