10-11-2011, 03:15 AM
Rolando wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
If this occupy this or that is going to make any headway they have to translate their show into electoral results. Identify Democrats who are not left enough for you, primary them then elect your own. I see no evidence of that because labor is right there with establishment Democrats and ain't gonna let that happen.
The difference between ideology and reason is this, and I hate to say it: Dakota has a point!
Its possible that the Unions might be convinced to support someone who doesn't betray them. The
He has a point if the point is to polarize the political process to the point that it can't function. On the other hand, if the point is for people who think there is something badly askew with the distribution of wealth to engage the broader society in a dialogue with confidence that a lot of people can be persuaded, then he doesn't have a point. It's fine that Dakota wants to view these kinds of things as being competition between ideologically pure political poles, that is certainly his prerogative. But it isn't objectively the case that that is the way things must be. I think that what it can be about is people with differing points of view deciding that it's better for everybody to hash out the differences with compromises. I think if the country chooses to go the political polarization route, it will be economically destructive and everyone will lose, with those who have the most, most likely losing the most.