02-08-2012, 04:37 PM
Grace62 wrote:'
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At the end of the day, Romney will win...grudgingly for many GOP folks.
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This is what the Democratic establishment was saying about Hillary Clinton at this point in the '08 primary contest. .
I disagree.
"Neither Clinton nor Obama had a clear advantage heading into the Super Tuesday primaries, with 23 states and territories and 1,681 delegates at stake and more media attention than any primary election day in American history."
That's a backwards looking quote from wiki, not a quote from a pundit talking in winter 2008.
Anyway, I was actively campaigning for Obama beginning in Dec. '07 and was our precinct chair and a county delegate. Even after our governor endorsed Obama and he drew 20K people to a speech at Key Arena, the Clinton fans were still convinced she would prevail. It took a long time for them to give it up around the country, as I'm sure you recall.
You made a claim with no cite, I respond WITH a cite (including delegate counts) as of winter 2008 that certainly do not support your assertion that Clinton was the presumptive nominee at this point.
The book Game Change which DID have plenty of interviews with Democratic folks does not really make that claim, either.
Can you support your assertion that "the Democratic establishment" (which certainly includes more than 'Clinton fans' ) was thinking in January/February 2008, what most pundits are thinking about Romney now?