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Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional
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Trouble wrote:
So a pair of judges can divine and speak for the majority of Californians who voted for this?

Well, in the Loving decision, the justices were able to overrule the majority of Virginians who had voted for a legislature that outlawed miscegenation. They clearly and unilaterally contravened the will of the people who had passed a law against marital race-mixing. Whether the voters were racist or traditional or had other reasons for supporting legalized discrimination was immaterial to the decision.

Regardless of the reasons for the discrimination, it's not debatable that Prop 8 was discriminatory (same-sex couples had the legal right to marry in CA, and Prop 8 voided that right). The disagreement is over whether the discrimination was justified and constitutional. You don't seem to want to address this point, instead focusing on Grace's characterization of motive.
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Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by August West - 02-07-2012, 06:28 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by samintx - 02-07-2012, 06:31 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by rjmacs - 02-07-2012, 06:33 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Black - 02-07-2012, 06:42 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by cbelt3 - 02-07-2012, 06:50 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by hal - 02-07-2012, 06:52 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by beagledave - 02-07-2012, 06:52 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Kiva - 02-07-2012, 06:54 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by davester - 02-07-2012, 06:58 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-07-2012, 07:03 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by billb - 02-07-2012, 07:17 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-07-2012, 07:20 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by hal - 02-07-2012, 07:37 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-07-2012, 07:39 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by beagledave - 02-07-2012, 07:47 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Dennis S - 02-07-2012, 07:59 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Uncle Wig - 02-07-2012, 09:39 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Seacrest - 02-08-2012, 02:04 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by mattkime - 02-08-2012, 02:46 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by DaviDC. - 02-08-2012, 02:49 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Kiva - 02-08-2012, 03:42 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by davester - 02-08-2012, 03:46 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Ted King - 02-08-2012, 03:52 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Uncle Wig - 02-08-2012, 04:00 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-08-2012, 04:12 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Rolando - 02-08-2012, 04:38 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 07:33 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-08-2012, 07:43 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by davester - 02-08-2012, 08:02 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 08:12 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-08-2012, 08:18 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 08:27 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 08:43 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by rjmacs - 02-08-2012, 09:20 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Kiva - 02-08-2012, 09:27 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-08-2012, 09:30 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by davester - 02-08-2012, 09:30 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 10:35 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-08-2012, 10:37 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-08-2012, 10:49 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by davester - 02-08-2012, 10:58 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by hal - 02-08-2012, 11:27 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-08-2012, 11:52 PM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Kiva - 02-09-2012, 12:04 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-09-2012, 12:28 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Seacrest - 02-09-2012, 01:15 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Greg - 02-09-2012, 01:25 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Seacrest - 02-09-2012, 01:34 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-09-2012, 03:59 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-09-2012, 04:00 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Dennis S - 02-09-2012, 04:52 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by rjmacs - 02-09-2012, 04:57 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Trouble - 02-09-2012, 05:09 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Seacrest - 02-09-2012, 05:26 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Grace62 - 02-09-2012, 05:30 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by Dennis S - 02-09-2012, 06:02 AM
Re: Prop 8 ruled unconstitutional - by davester - 02-09-2012, 06:21 AM

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