07-17-2012, 04:31 PM
wowzer wrote:
[quote=Pam]
[quote=wowzer]
[quote=Pam]
Hate to tell you, but it's already happened. Tossing Obamacare won't change the path we're already on.
True, but at least it wont bring down the rest of America. The only places where this was happening was the heavily democratic states (NY, MA, RI, CT, etc). That's because the democrats love trial lawyers and frivolous lawsuits. By creating an extension of medicaid, it will expand the trial lawyers' influence on the rest of America. This is going to get very, very ugly. I'm glad that I'm in mid-career...and wont have to feel the repercussions too much. I'm really concerned about our kids and the next generation.
Well no, it's happened in Virginia as well.
I don't and never have seen Obamacare as a rigid document. In my dream world, after the election, both sides can put their partisanship aside and iron out some kinks. It's fine if it's in back rooms and they snipe in front of the cameras. As long as it's done.
I would vote for that! But you and I both know that the world has become very unforgiving and very unwilling to bend. The truth is that obamacare was forced down the throats of the republicans. You can bet that they will fight it. I bet some democratic governors will not enact the medicaid expansion, as long term projections show billions of losses to the state when the federal government pulls out financial support. Simply put, the math just doesn't work out.
Thing is Obamacare is for the most part, a Republican plan. They couldn't pass it and let Obama get a win. They had to act as though this plan was a product of liberal Democratic minds. As it is Obama had to make deals with pharma he didn't want to get it passed. As without them it would not have passed. So you have Republicans who want it gone simply to take away a Democratic victory, and you have pharma and as well as the insurance companies lining pockets to protect their profits. Just who is really looking out for the average American citizen?
Long term projections are guides. That's it. If congress cannot get their collective asses together and work on what's best for the country it won't matter if Obamacare stays in place.