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The worst civil liberties president in US history?....
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Chakravartin wrote:
To use that as an excuse to vote for Romney without being a hypocrite you'd be implicitly assuming that Romney would respect the Constitution and undo the executive power-consolidation done under Bush and Obama.

Frankly, I see that as a very remote possibility.

It's a two party system. Which one is the lesser evil?
Strawman, a complete straw construct.

A lesser evil is still evil.
You go ahead and vote for evil.
I do not care what Romney is, he was not elected to Change, to dismantle Bush's Police State.
Do you remember Obama's entire platform?
We are not talking one tiny promise that he for got about.
I want the fascist SOB fired.
"And then there are the two War on Terror presidents. George Bush seized on the 9/11 attack to usher in radical new surveillance and detention powers in the PATRIOT ACT, spied for years on the communications of US citizens without the warrants required by law, and claimed the power to indefinitely imprison even US citizens without charges in military brigs.
His successor, Barack Obama, went further by claiming the power not merely to detain citizens without judicial review but to assassinate them (about which the New York Times said: \"It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for an American to be approved for targeted killing\). He has waged an unprecedented war on whistleblowers, dusting off Wilson's Espionage Act of 1917 to prosecute more then double the number of whistleblowers than all prior presidents combined. And he has draped his actions with at least as much secrecy, if not more so, than any president in US history. wrote:
The hypocrites like deckeda will vote for the fascist, I know I am nor going to change that.

My conscience is clear, how is yours....
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Re: The worst civil liberties president in US history?.... - by max - 11-04-2012, 04:32 AM

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