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The worst civil liberties president in US history?....
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Spock wrote:
Despite the good things that Obama has done...
"Despite good things"? It needs another thread, but if you look at any one of the "good things" closely, each one is a sellout, from Wall Street "reform" to universal "healthcare", just more lipstick on same pig.


Spock wrote: ...his record on civil liberties has been abysmal. I hope that he will have the courage to reverse some of the worse excesses in his second term but I'm not going to hold my breath.

You hope he will have courage?
Did you climb from under a rock?
Who was holding Obama back? and it was not Congress, most of the screws he tightened was done by executive fiat.

AND he did have a total control of Congress the first two years of his administration.

Keef wrote:
I dunno. If I buy a boxed TV from the back of a truck only to get home and find the box filled with bricks... I generally don't go back for seconds. Maybe I'm weird that way.

you, too, are going for your second load of bricks...
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Re: The worst civil liberties president in US history?.... - by max - 11-04-2012, 02:28 PM

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