11-05-2012, 01:11 PM
Chakravartin wrote:
[quote=michaelb]Generally, you don't have "constitutional rights" when you are out of the country.
You do insofar as as actions by the U.S. government are concerned. Nothing in the Constitution exempts citizens from
constitutional protections while traveling.
...Except for 100 miles inland from every border of the U.S. (The Customs and Border Protection division of the Department of Homeland Security claims that they have a mandate that includes this region, allowing them to conduct warrantless searches and to indefinitely detain any suspect in this region, covering roughly 2/3rds of the population of the U.S.)
http://www.aclu.org/national-security_te...-free-zone
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_...on,00.html
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...es-aboard/
http://chronicle.com/article/Far-From-Ca...ve/125880/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/28...-Free-Zone
As authoritative as those sources are on constitutional law, none of them stand for what you are suggesting, all are about how you don't have any constitutional rights at the border (and that extends 100 miles inland). None of them address the rights of a US citizen killed for terrorist activities in Yemen or for piracy in Sudan. I will give you some leeway here though, the reason for that is the constitutional questions about killing terrorists outside the US is unknown and unresolved and is likely not reviewable by a US court, so we will never know.
Your beef with Obama is not that he is denying "constitutional rights" to terrorists (since they have none), but that he is continuing an unlawful expansion of executive power that was adopted by Bush.