this terrible train accident in Spain

[mrlynn]

What Black said. There were two engineers ('drivers' in Europe) in the cab. It seems unlikely that both would be so negligent as to run double the speed limit for a dangerous stretch of track. It also seems odd that there would be been no in-cab signaling and/or limiters that would not have alerted or even braked the train; but I don't know what systems are in place in Spain or on that line.

But, unlikely as all the possibilities are, the crash did occur, and speed was the proximate cause. i think we should withhold judgment on the crew until we know more.

/Mr Lynn