10-06-2017, 12:41 AM
hal wrote:
Of course they support this - it doesn't curtail the sale of guns in any way whatsoever. As long as it doesn't harm their clients, they don't give a flying fuck...
I've been chatting online with some gun owner friends. At the end of the conversation I mentioned what the NRA said today. So long as it doesn't alter or reduce their ability to buy guns, they'll probably be OK with it.
I take that to mean that they would never be raising a stink that since 1986 it's been illegal to buy a new machine gun, since that's essentially what bump stock mods become.
I don't yet understand. If everyone has semi automatic weapons, then they (the "good guys") still do not necessarily have an advantage when the horde descends upon them.
pdq wrote:
... AR-15s are meant to kill people, and everyone knows that. ...
The efficiency of weapons for the task at hand was a core argument of mine today. Not so much "intent" because I was being shouted down about how people with bad intentions will use cars, bombs, knives and so on. I repeatedly stated how people use the best tools at their disposal. Nothing else compares. It's why military issues firearms. It's why my gun-loving friends own guns, and would not dream of trying to drive their car over an intruder, or smothering them with a T-shirt, even though those items can and do "kill."
There's a willingness to disbelieve any reductions in arms will mean it's harder for bad guys to obtain them. I swear, you could suggest refrigerators be banned tomorrow and they'd argue people would always find a way to posses refrigerators
They are convinced 2A gives them every right to own any gun that can be made. They are convinced their freedom to do so outweighs my safety, and I'm not a stranger to them. They are convinced they are safer with guns, because people will always come after them, even if they never have done so. They are convinced that terrorism is the same thing as what happened in Vegas, that people can't be controlled, so guns are necessary.