02-01-2021, 10:39 PM
rjmacs wrote:
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[quote=Lemon Drop]
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He's a denizen of the Tea Party class of 2010. No thanks - voted against impeachment Part I, in favor of punishing sanctuary cities, and to defeat the Equality Act. Let him roast with the rest.
Yeah, we had already established he's a Republican. At some point you have to acknowledge courage in people with whom you have political disagreements.
Where was his courage when he was voting against my civil rights?
It sounds like what you are saying is that if someone has done enough deleterious things that no one should give them credit for doing a worthy thing. Is that implied by what you are saying?
You are seriously tempting me to Godwin this thread, which I won't. Even terrible politicians occasionally do good things. Our former president granted a number of unjustly sentenced Black Americans clemency, but it didn't make him someone worthy of praise, IMHO.
Other people can sing his praises - maybe he didn't do anything to curb your civil rights. I won't.
Okay, I just wanted to make sure I was interpreting your words correctly.
I'm going to assume that you are okay with the phrase, "done enough deleterious things to not be worthy of credit for doing something worthy". As with most issues like this, I look at it as a continuum from "done hardly any deleterious things so deserve credit for worthy things they do" to "done German Nazi amount of deleterious things and don't deserve credit for any worthy thing they do". People can judge where they would put Kinzinger on that continuum. I'm thinking you and Lemon are putting him on different places on that continuum. Not judging, just making an observation - or maybe better to say that I'm sharing my speculation about how this shakes out.