05-07-2023, 11:19 PM
Smote wrote:
[quote=Ted King]
[quote=Smote]
I am very much in the pro-choice camp. Personal choice and personal freedoms. pro abortion does not have to mean anti gun.
But there sure is a certain hypocrisy in those same people screaming about 20,000 killed by firearms seem to be silent about the 25-75 times more lives ended by abortions. :dunno: The mom is excersizing her choice sure, but what about the unborn kids who have no say?
25-75 times more depends on which recent year you look at. But the enormous difference in either ratio illustrates the point.
I've had a family member who was raped. I understand the issues from a pretty close perspective. In the past I drove a few friends to abortion clinics because they had no one else to turn to for help who wouldn't judge them.
An implicit assumption you are making is that a fetus is a person as much as a post-birth person that is killed by a firearm. I don't accept that assumption.
That's your right. But there is some logic there IF someone were to ascribe to the belief that a life is lost when an abortion is done.
You said, "...there sure is a certain hypocrisy in those same people screaming about 20,000 killed by firearms seem to be silent about the 25-75 times more lives ended by abortions."
There is nothing in that formulation that suggests that "those same people" is meant to only apply to those who think that fetuses are people as much as people killed by firearms.