05-09-2023, 12:07 AM
Ted King wrote:
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I am very much in the pro-choice camp. Personal choice and personal freedoms. pro abortion does not have to mean anti gun.
But there sure is a certain hypocrisy in those same people screaming about 20,000 killed by firearms seem to be silent about the 25-75 times more lives ended by abortions. :dunno: The mom is excersizing her choice sure, but what about the unborn kids who have no say?
25-75 times more depends on which recent year you look at. But the enormous difference in either ratio illustrates the point.
I've had a family member who was raped. I understand the issues from a pretty close perspective. In the past I drove a few friends to abortion clinics because they had no one else to turn to for help who wouldn't judge them.
An implicit assumption you are making is that a fetus is a person as much as a post-birth person that is killed by a firearm. I don't accept that assumption.
I used to think this was the crux of the biscuit, but lately I've talked to quite a few who agree the fetus is a human life, and even a person, but they don't care. Still fine.
There's also an assumption that the life of the person already alive is more valuable than the one that will be a person. There are some people who have large negative value. I think you have to be religious to think they should be alive.