03-07-2007, 05:29 PM
[quote RgrF][quote Grateful11]So now we're responsible for everything our really lazy, cheap and stupid dead ancestors did?
Well yeah. Especially those lazy, cheap and dead ancestors that wrote the Constitution and especially that dullard Munroe for holding out for the inclusion of the Bill of Rights. If we accept responsibility for some of our ancestry, don't we de facto accept responsibility for it all?
Absolutely not! Well, maybe only in the sense of preventing it from happening again.
Laws have been changed to address freedom and slavery. While not the "equality" that some would deem acceptable or just, minorities have it a hell of a lot better than their parents and grandparents ever did.
Laws were changed and amendments made to the Constitution as well.
The Bill of Rights? Well, we have seen how little it seems to mean to our leaders in recent years.
I regret slavery happened, but I don't feel guilty or in any way responsible for it, much less obligated to "pay off" anyone because of it.
Some my ancestors were slaves, others were killed or put on reservations, and some were ostracized and forced out of their own country only to keep searching until they found sanctuary in the swamps and bayou's of Louisiana. I have heard first hand from some of them as a kid what they and their parents, g'parents went through.
No one owes me or my family a thing because of it.
The level of success I have had so far in my life is directly related to those situations as I have learned that to have the best chance to prevent falling into the vacuum of poverty or having my life completely controlled by others, I have to work harder and learn more to have the best chance at a successful and rewarding life. If you want more freedom or equality or a better life, then do what 90% of the population does, get educated and/or work hard at it.
Don't expect handouts unless you are willing to have your life dictated to you. That is nothing more than slavery as well.
Well yeah. Especially those lazy, cheap and dead ancestors that wrote the Constitution and especially that dullard Munroe for holding out for the inclusion of the Bill of Rights. If we accept responsibility for some of our ancestry, don't we de facto accept responsibility for it all?
Absolutely not! Well, maybe only in the sense of preventing it from happening again.
Laws have been changed to address freedom and slavery. While not the "equality" that some would deem acceptable or just, minorities have it a hell of a lot better than their parents and grandparents ever did.
Laws were changed and amendments made to the Constitution as well.
The Bill of Rights? Well, we have seen how little it seems to mean to our leaders in recent years.
I regret slavery happened, but I don't feel guilty or in any way responsible for it, much less obligated to "pay off" anyone because of it.
Some my ancestors were slaves, others were killed or put on reservations, and some were ostracized and forced out of their own country only to keep searching until they found sanctuary in the swamps and bayou's of Louisiana. I have heard first hand from some of them as a kid what they and their parents, g'parents went through.
No one owes me or my family a thing because of it.
The level of success I have had so far in my life is directly related to those situations as I have learned that to have the best chance to prevent falling into the vacuum of poverty or having my life completely controlled by others, I have to work harder and learn more to have the best chance at a successful and rewarding life. If you want more freedom or equality or a better life, then do what 90% of the population does, get educated and/or work hard at it.
Don't expect handouts unless you are willing to have your life dictated to you. That is nothing more than slavery as well.