05-17-2007, 08:46 AM
kj this sort of dialog can go on forever unless you define the baseline. I think Mr. Carlin did it well with this:
Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money.
Either you acept that invisible man or you question the whole precept. I question the whole precept.
Charlatans come in all guises. They have the power to convince, not only others, but themselves and to my mind that makes them all crazy as loons.
This is not to deny that spirituality and transcendence exist, just that they shouldn't be operated as profit centers because that's what organized religion always devolves to.
Every successful organized religion in history has amassed wealth and temporal power along the way. That's no accident.
Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money.
Either you acept that invisible man or you question the whole precept. I question the whole precept.
Charlatans come in all guises. They have the power to convince, not only others, but themselves and to my mind that makes them all crazy as loons.
This is not to deny that spirituality and transcendence exist, just that they shouldn't be operated as profit centers because that's what organized religion always devolves to.
Every successful organized religion in history has amassed wealth and temporal power along the way. That's no accident.